UFC Fight Night: Font vs. Aldo

I understand arguments for Gall but Morono himself has been improving and is peaking.He's a better boxer and a tough guy,there are better favorites on the card but there is litttle value in that line.
 
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I'm gonna unload on this one.I Like a couple of favorites.Besides the ones I mentioned I like Santos,Muzarkanov and Barbarena.The dog I like is Pitolo.
 
Bakayoko said:
I'm gonna unload on this one.I Like a couple of favorites.Besides the ones I mentioned I like Santos,Muzarkanov and Barbarena.The dog I like is Pitolo.
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Can you really have any trust in Barbarena for that price?? He looked terrible in his last fight and has been declining for a while now. Also his one elite attribute, the chin, shows cracks as well. I've mentioned it before but that fight is a dog or pass if I ever seen one.
 
Bakayoko said:
I understand arguments for Gall but Morono himself has been improving and is peaking.He's a better boxer and a tough guy,there are better favorites on the card but there is litttle value in that line.
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I would have to tape again but I thought his striking was regressing.
 
DonQ94 said:
Can you really have any trust in Barbarena for that price?? He looked terrible in his last fight and has been declining for a while now. Also his one elite attribute, the chin, shows cracks as well. I've mentioned it before but that fight is a dog or pass if I ever seen one.
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He's the least one that I like,not much to say,expect him to be better since he was returning after operation in the last one and Brown is old.
 
Doggo_Stat_Collector said:
Gall also has a nice size advantage. And I'm not sold on Alex having a solid td defense. He has managed to be matched against other strikers. But his last match against a ok grappler was Max Griffen who got him down 4 times. I wonder if Gall just goes in there Gracie style and taps him out via rnc.
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Morono is actually pretty competent on the ground. I'd be surprised to see a sub, but I could see Gall getting control time. Moreno does like to fish for guillotines, so I think he gives up takedowns hoping to snag those. If Gall works to the back though, it's irrelevant. I think Moreno wins, but I just have a hard time putting a confident % to it.
 
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mkess101 said:
No way for me, wouldn't lay that juice here at all.

Morono is no doubt the more technical and skilled striker. Faster, understands how to set traps and use feints, throws combos. BUT...he will stand and trade wildly from time to time. He's been hit because after he lands he stays in the pocket and admires his shot instead of immediately sliding out of range. It's not a matter of him lacking skills. It's that he seems to just like to stand and trade at times.

Gall...is a rudimentary boxer but he's managed to make it moderately effective has his career has progressed. He seems to have a granite chin. He has some power. And he's damn sure not afraid to stand in the pocket and bang. Most likely, Morono is gonna give him a few chances to brawl when it's standing.

As far as grappling goes, Gall has definitely shown that he'll accept bottom too easily and for far too long at times during his career. He treated it like a grappling match, where he wasn't taking damage but was allowing his opponent to bleed the clock away and win rounds. But I can't see Morono going that route. I doubt he has the wrestling ability to do it even if he wanted to. On the other hand, Morono absolutely cannot allow Gall to put him on his back. Gall is a criminally underrated grappler, people don't seem to realize the skill level he has. Prior to Gall's last fight a poster here (I honestly can't remember who it was, I could go back and look I guess) kept arguing with me that Gall's grappling background was overblown and he'd never sub Jordan Williams, etc. And I was like "Dude...I don't care if it was prior to when Gordon Ryan was viewed as the GOAT...having a competitive grappling match with him is something VERY few guys on earth could have done even at that point." Well...look what Gall did to Williams. The fight was an utter mismatch once it hit the mat, and Gall finished him quickly. If Gall is able to take Morono down, Morono is in real trouble.

Edit: The guy who I was arguing about Gall's grappling ability with is now banned of course. Dogs and Kisses was his name.
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Yea he and others were giving me crap because I thought gall at +180 was crazy against Williams


Good times
 
Oblivian said:
Morono is actually pretty competent on the ground. I'd be surprised to see a sub, but I could see Gall getting control time. Moreno does like to fish for guillotines, so I think he gives up takedowns hoping to snag those. If Gall works to the back though, it's irrelevant. I think Moreno wins, but I just have a hard time putting a confident % to it.
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Its not gonna work though, gall has solid sub defense, competed and won several bjj tournaments, he's got fast passes and solid grappling stamina(not counting the diago fight.)Alex uses butterfly guard a lot and attacks subs to scramble on his feet, but if gall gets him in a body triangle, i can see him stealing rounds even without the sub and get ground ctrl time like you said.
 
The Tapology fan vote is 80% for Puelles, but the oddsmakers have Gruetzemacher as the favorite. That's probably the largest disparity I've seen between the two. Can anybody explain it for me?
 
Guld said:
The Tapology fan vote is 80% for Puelles, but the oddsmakers have Gruetzemacher as the favorite. That's probably the largest disparity I've seen between the two. Can anybody explain it for me?
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The line opened with gritz as the underdog

square money from people like @BigSteve moved the lines to where they are now

there are often large disparities between tapology and odds because people on tapology don’t bet. They’re just picking who they think will win.
 
Captain Chesapeake said:
The line opened with gritz as the underdog

square money from people like @BigSteve moved the lines to where they are now

there are often large disparities between tapology and odds because people on tapology don’t bet. They’re just picking who they think will win.
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I guess I get that, but it seems like the largest disparity that I've seen (I've only been monitoring this stuff for a short time mind you).
I figured it was more a case of Puelles having some crazy fan support/steam behind him, and making the Tapology vote far higher than it should be.
 
Guld said:
The Tapology fan vote is 80% for Puelles, but the oddsmakers have Gruetzemacher as the favorite. That's probably the largest disparity I've seen between the two. Can anybody explain it for me?
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Tapoliogy is filled with idiots and thats saying alot when I am commenting on sherdog
 
Captain Chesapeake said:
The line opened with gritz as the underdog

square money from people like @BigSteve moved the lines to where they are now

there are often large disparities between tapology and odds because people on tapology don’t bet. They’re just picking who they think will win.
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I have a bet on Gritz :eek:???
 
Captain Chesapeake said:
I’m just messing with you bruh
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thats it, straight to the gulag with you.

But na honestly Greutz at dog odds would be a good bet. I wanted to bet him at current odds but had bad gut feeling even though I think he wins. Might wait for live bet option like Garcia fight
 
mkess101 said:
With Gall, people seem to mostly remember 2 fights. The shitshow vs Diego where Gall was literally in the middle of kidney failure (not the BS excuse after the fact type deal---he was in the hospital a WEEK after that fight because his kidneys were shutting down) and the fight with Perry because Gall got outgrappled.

The Sanchez fight is barely worth talking about. If you rewatch it, Gall looked like a straight up zombie before the end of rd 1. Dude should NOT have been in that cage, he should have been in the ICU.


The criticism from the Perry fight is fair to a degree, but there's other takeaways from that fight. Standing, Gall actually may have gotten the better of it. He landed a lot of good shots on Perry (the same Perry who went toe to toe in a war with Luque) and Gall's success standing was potentially part of the reason that Perry surprisingly went to his grappling. Also, Perry showed himself to be maybe a bit of an underrated grappler IF he can get top position. He's mostly useless off his back, but he was so much physically stronger than Gall that any technical advantages Gall had were neutralized by Perry's strength.

I think Morono is decent but nothing special. Pretty good all around fighter but does nothing exceedingly well. Paying -2xx on him vs a guy with world class grappling and submission skills who's also tough and durable as hell...can't imagine doing it.
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But Perry/Gall was headcase Mike Perry where his entire corner was his new girlfriend. That was a shell of a fighter if I've ever seen one and he dominated Gall. I mean, the guy was getting into street fights and was lucky he wasn't criminally charged; his life fell apart. Losing that bad and getting outgrappled that hard is not even close to a good look. Morono won't do that to him, but Gall has serious limitations in the grappling department despite much being better than Morono. His match with Gordon Ryan was impressive in that he didn't get subbed, but that was a very different Gordon Ryan than the GOAT we know today. Gall is a switch stance with height and reach, but he's not gonna win the striking here. He was neck and neck with headcase Perry, but that's a very different thing. I haven't taped this fight so I don't have a good read on it though the odds seem a little wide as on paper I could see Gall getting a sub.

EDIT: I take it back, Gall is not much better than Morono and he's likely not getting a sub. Why is Gall a decent play, just because he lost on points to brown belt Gordon Ryan? I have to tape more, but I'm really liking Morono right now. Odds are steep, but not too steep. I'll be back after Thanksgiving with some thoughts.
 
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