UFC - Dana White

[rorschach51]

Of course he is
He makes more per year now then he did before
UFC went up in value 30% since the sale in a "bad year" because WME is better at money management

Do you think the UFC's hardcore fanbase will be enough to keep the ratings up on TV and buys up on PPV in the dark days ahead when the UFC no longer has the big star? With how they pissed off their core fanbase with making their titles and rankings irrelevant. Combined with the boom period in popularity of the sport being over, what do you as the future of the promotion? The ratings keep slipping, the buyrates keep dropping (unless someone actually popular with the casuals fights) to someone like myself who doesn't really know much about the business side of things, the UFC's long term future doesn't look promising.

 

[FrankieNYC]

Dana worked for the Fertitas from 2001-2016 and made $360 Million for his share of the company. On top of that he earned a salary of ??? making $24 Million per year as a capital gain which is likely taxed at a lower rate then income. He also made salary on top so he did OK before.

You don't get it
Dana still has 7% of UFC as an owner (he bought back in, so that $360m, which was actually $340 was not all profit) & UFC is worth $5b now (30% more than the sale)

 

[FrankieNYC]

Do you think the UFC's hardcore fanbase will be enough to keep the ratings up on TV and buys up on PPV in the dark days ahead when the UFC no longer has the big star? With how they pissed off their core fanbase with making their titles and rankings irrelevant. Combined with the boom period in popularity of the sport being over, what do you as the future of the promotion? The ratings keep slipping, the buyrates keep dropping (unless someone actually popular with the casuals fights) to someone like myself who doesn't really know much about the business side of things, the UFC's long term future doesn't look promising.

No idea why you are discussing that
I am discussing what DW made this year.

in 2014 nobody thought UFC would have their three best years.
In 2017 nobody (but me & a few others) knew that even in a down year UFC would make $150+m in profit

AGAIN, my point is DW is not going anywhere
He is making 9% of profit as salary every year plus about 7% as owner & UFC went up 30% in value

 

[ShreddinMMA]

I feel they are more likely to have Dana enter the cage and hit someone in the head with a steel chair.

Seems to be the direction WME is going.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Dana gets taken down by a sexual assault scandal in 2018, bet the house

 

[rorschach51]

No idea why you are discussing that
I am discussing what DW made this year.

in 2014 nobody thought UFC would have their three best years.
In 2017 nobody (but me & a few others) knew that even in a down year UFC would make $150+m in profit

AGAIN, my point is DW is not going anywhere
He is making 9% of profit as salary every year plus about 7% as owner & UFC went up 30% in value

I was just quoting a recent post of yours because I was curious about what I asked you, and you seem to know about that kind of stuff.

 

[FrankieNYC]

I was just quoting a recent post of yours because I was curious about what I asked you, and you seem to know about that kind of stuff.

Its all good
I was just confused bc you quoted something that was different

Honestly, I agree with you
I have no idea if the 'WME-Era' will be good for MMA as far as fans go
We won't know until 2020 the earliest

But they are far better businessmen then the Fertitta's are as far as making money with less results

In a down year as far as growth goes, they would have had a huge year without MayMac & that is insane.

I can't think about predicting 2018-19-20, because I would have never predicted 2015-16-17 after a bad 2014

But WME is doing the exact opposite of what many on here think.
They are actually building the company to make more from less interest.

That is why UFC went up 30% in a down year. WME cut $25-40m in budget, plus made some nice TV deals outside of America & solidified sponsors.
The above added $50+m profit a year

Sorry if my post read wrong man

 

[LSU]

You don't get it
Dana still has 7% of UFC as an owner (he bought back in, so that $360m, which was actually $340 was not all profit) & UFC is worth $5b now (30% more than the sale)

I thought he was given those shares IN ADDITION to the money he cashed out in exchange for staying. You may want to double check because I am pretty sure I am correct on this...

 

[FrankieNYC]

I thought he was given those shares IN ADDITION to the money he cashed out in exchange for staying. You may want to double check because I am pretty sure I am correct on this...

Trust me, Dana bought back in as far as ownership goes (at a slight discount but still bought back in)
There is ZERO Chance they would give him 7% approx for just staying on

I posted the info here (as I usually do)

He gets no guaranteed salary but 9% of profits

 

[Erocthadon]

Dana vs. Vince in a hardcore rules death match will save both companies

 

[rorschach51]

Its all good
I was just confused bc you quoted something that was different

Honestly, I agree with you
I have no idea if the 'WME-Era' will be good for MMA as far as fans go
We won't know until 2020 the earliest

But they are far better businessmen then the Fertitta's are as far as making money with less results

In a down year as far as growth goes, they would have had a huge year without MayMac & that is insane.

I can't think about predicting 2018-19-20, because I would have never predicted 2015-16-17 after a bad 2014

But WME is doing the exact opposite of what many on here think.
They are actually building the company to make more from less interest.

That is why UFC went up 30% in a down year. WME cut $25-40m in budget, plus made some nice TV deals outside of America & solidified sponsors.
The above added $50+m profit a year

Sorry if my post read wrong man

That's great, I'm glad they have realized ways to make more money now despite dwindling ratings and buy rates. I was wondering though with the damage they seem to be creating with their core fanbase, how things were gonna be in 5 years, 10 years when who knows how many more regular every show fans stop watching and buy rates drop even more. It just doesn't seem like a good idea to keep alienating your core fanbase when they are the ones that are going to keep the lights on when all the stars are retired and what looks like only dark days ahead. I've seen you post the numbers of how well they are doing now and that's fine. But a chunk of that is from cutbacks and firings to save salary, not revenue coming in, so when scaling back or firing people is no longer feasible with what seems like the popularity of the UFC trending downward it's hard to picture a continued bright & growing future.

 

[FrankieNYC]

That's great, I'm glad they have realized ways to make more money now despite dwindling ratings and buy rates. I was wondering though with the damage they seem to be creating with their core fanbase, how things were gonna be in 5 years, 10 years when who knows how many more regular every show fans stop watching and buy rates drop even more. It just doesn't seem like a good idea to keep alienating your core fanbase when they are the ones that are going to keep the lights on when all the stars are retired and what looks like only dark days ahead. I've seen you post the numbers of how well they are doing now and that's fine. But a chunk of that is from cutbacks and firings to save salary, not revenue coming in, so when scaling back or firing people is no longer feasible with what seems like the popularity of the UFC trending downward it's hard to picture a continued bright & growing future.

Here is the thing
Fans have said similar & felt that way before (2013/14) & they had 2 huge years of interest & money & another with less interest & money.
Prize fighting/combat sports will have ups & downs.
Its impossible to see what the future holds in the WME-Era
We have barely seen their game plan

Two things we know
1. Fertitta's cared more about MMA
2. WME & investors know how to manage a company for max profits

Sherdoggers wanted the Fertitta's out & for someone to treat UFC like a business & they got it

Personally I miss the way Lorenzo would be a bit omnipresent, it seems more personal.

 

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[LSU]

Trust me, Dana bought back in as far as ownership goes (at a slight discount but still bought back in)
There is ZERO Chance they would give him 7% approx for just staying on

I posted the info here (as I usually do)

He gets no guaranteed salary but 9% of profits

I haven't read anywhere that he bought back in, do you have a link?

 

[FrankieNYC]

I haven't read anywhere that he bought back in, do you have a link?

I posted on here many times

WTF would WME give DW $300m in shares?
lol

SD search engine is lacking but I just asked Meltzer & he said yes but did not know the exact terms (how much he paid) & one thing that came up was DW (at the time of the sale) saying he will be buying shares in the new UFC

According to Fox Sports, TMZ, NY times and many other news publications, the UFC has been officially sold and will require 2 to 6 weeks for final signatures. Dana White will continue to be majorly involved in the organization, staying as the UFC President. Dana White says he will continue to buy shares in the UFC, as MMA has always been a part of his life and he wants to stay involved in the sport he is passionate about.

 

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[LSU]

I posted on here many times

WTF would WME give DW $300m in shares?
lol

SD search engine is lacking but I just asked Meltzer & he said yes but did not know the exact terms (how much he paid) & one thing that came up was DW (at the time of the sale) saying he will be buying shares in the new UFC

Ya I have seen that but that would be in addition to his 9% salary right? So if he bought in he would get 9% plus whatever he bought in for. Dana is making Bank!

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

UFC's been pretty trash since the Fox deal

Way too many divisions and cards....Not the spectacle it used to be.

Peaked in 2009-2010 imo

 

[sabretitan]

It has gone to shit.. still wicked fights and all that, but the structure and long term overview are brutal