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UFC Cruiserweight (206-230) why does this not exsist?

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  1. Punch-Face.com White Belt

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    Watching Ngannou and Bojan highlighted this huge issue in the UFC for me. I don't know who signed off on the idea that weight stops playing a factor once you go over 205 pounds, but it makes no sense and should be corrected ASAP. I wrote a short opinion piece on this subject on my MMA blog where I go a little more in depth on the matter, please check it out if you have a sec and any feedback would be appreciated.

    http://punch-face.com/2016/07/26/call-for-cruiserweights
     
  2. NoBiasJustMMA Steel Belt

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    Because LHW and HW are 2 of the weakest divisions in MMA and putting a weight class in between them would be idiotic. What is your goal in suggesting this? Most every HW in the UFC could cut to 230 except maybe 5 or 6.
     
  3. bungyo Brown Belt

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    You want even fewer guys fighting at HW? That's not going to go over well...
     
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    cause it would be garbageweight
     
  5. screaminleeman Red Belt

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    I wouldn't oppose it. The challenge is that the depth of the LHW and HW divisions is both not deep enough currently to spread the two divisions over 3. Obviously if there were enough quality fighters to span these three WC's, it (IMO) would be a no brainer.

    Possibly lifting the weight limit cap on HW, adding the cruiserweight division and removing the absolute UFC "exclusive contract" policy could help, but even then I am not sure that there would be enough quality fighters to make it work out!
     
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    I'd like to see it
     
  7. accolyte1022 Duty Belt

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    Stop spamming your shit website and shit ideas.
     
  8. Bacco Silver Belt

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    It seem the solution for HW's overpopulation problem, too many and too good for one single division
     
  9. CrimsonFan Gold Belt

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    The best HWs we've had in MMA haven't been the huge guys
     
  10. Darwinambrosius Thought you had a friend, boy?

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    You'd turn two thin divisions into three.
     
  11. binny I'll beat your ass if you jump on my couch.

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    you said it. time to give those top tier, unranked HW's a place to shine
     
  12. BisexualMMA Don't Put My Name in the Name of Steroids!

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    I'd be fine with a 230 division and lifting the 265 pound limit on HW.

    It's less of an issue now that USADA prevents "prime" Brocks and Carwins (and Ubereems) from existing, and guys like Bigfoot can't take their medicine. It would mostly just cause Hunt and Roy to get fatter, I imagine.
     
  13. Irishwhiskey119 Banned Banned

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    HW and LHW are thin enough. No need to over saturate.

    There are more small people in the world anyway.
     
  14. Vikassi Purple Belt

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    too many weight classes is lame.
     
  15. Punch-Face.com White Belt

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    removing the cap at Heavyweight would help as well, How could their not be enough talent to fill two divisions when you have the world as your talent pool? A division where Stipe, Cain and JDS type fighters competed against other similar body types would be marketable. Cutting to 230 wouldn't always be an advantage, cutting to 230 wouldn't help Bigfoot against Cain, weight has a point of diminishing returns. Fighters should fight opponents that weigh the same, easy as that.
     
  16. georgekillian Brown Belt

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    How can you ask how can there not be enough talent????? There just isn't take a look at the divisions currently. What's gonna happen to make it better? Your idea is not new or novel I've seen it floated on here for as long as I've been posting. Its a bad idea it'll never work or happen so it's essentially a pointless convo.
     
  17. Voodoo_Child906 Black Belt

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    Too diluted, if there were enough quality fighters I'd change it to:

    HW: 220-285
    CW: 200-219
    LHW: 183-199
    MW: 170-182
     
  18. Chitaouri Banned Banned

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    206-220 would be better
     
  19. PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Stop spamming your website.
     
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