UFC 200 PPV buys?

Davemeddlehed said:
I think you're confusing star power for hardcores with star power for casuals. Casuals buy ppv's, casuals make up 90% of the target audience. Putting GSP on the card with Conor changes nothing when he hasn't fought in over 2 years and the casuals don't know who he is.
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Canadian athlete of the year 2 times in a row and no one knows who he is?? Do you actually think Under Armor would sponsor an unknown???

GSP pulled in a steady 700-800k buy rate, its not Conor or Ronda but he did better numbers the. Anderson Silva and Jon Jones.
 
JoshR86 said:
Lets pretend GSP wasnt a big draw and co mained 100.
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Let's pretend GSP didn't average 500k buys before UFC 100 while the UFC averaged 342k from UFC 33 to UFC 99, even with those super abysmal early cards with <100k buys littering the field for a while. But he was a huge draw, right?

Answer me this: If GSP was such a huge draw, and the determining factor in UFC 100's success, then why did UFC 87, which GSP co mained, and Lesnar main evented, do only 625k less than a year before UFC100?
 
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JoshR86 said:
Canadian athlete of the year 2 times in a row and no one knows who he is?? Do you actually think Under Armor would sponsor an unknown???

GSP pulled in a steady 700-800k buy rate, its not Conor or Ronda but he did better numbers the. Anderson Silva and Jon Jones.
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Casual fans in the US likely don't. Or do you think Canada contributes the same numbers on ppv's that casual US fans do?
 
Davemeddlehed said:
Casual fans in the US likely don't. Or do you think Canada contributes the same numbers on ppv's that casual US fans do?
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Like i said hes always been one of there biggest stara and at times there biggest draw.

Theres like 2 people on the roster of 500+ fighter that pull more numbers than GSP
 
JoshR86 said:
Like i said hes always been one of there biggest stara and at times there biggest draw.

Theres like 2 people on the roster of 500+ fighter that pull more numbers than GSP
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What does that have to do with casual fans not knowing who he is? Since GSP last fought the welterweight title alone has changed hands 3 times in 5 title fights. You think the Casual fan remembers who GSP is? Brock Lesnar just came back from an extended absence, and UFC 200 has reportedly done quite a bit less than UFC 100 did, and Lesnar has a built in fanbase from another "sport".
 
Davemeddlehed said:
What does that have to do with casual fans not knowing who he is? Since GSP last fought the welterweight title alone has changed hands 3 times in 5 title fights. You think the Casual fan remembers who GSP is? Brock Lesnar just came back from an extended absence, and UFC 200 has reportedly done quite a bit less than UFC 100 did, and Lesnar has a built in fanbase from another "sport".
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Lol you do realize everybody is calling out GSP because hes a huge draw and they want that red panty night right???

Brock originally came from the WWE whose fan base been dying since the UFC emerged, so no he didnt grow a fan base since 100, his fan base decreases since UFC 100.
 
JoshR86 said:
Lol you do realize everybody is calling out GSP because hes a huge draw and they want that red panty night right???

Brock originally came from the WWE whose fan base been dying since the UFC emerged, so no he didnt grow a fan base since 100, his fan base decreases since UFC 100.
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Or because he's had 2+ years of inactivity, on top of his already declining performances against Condit and Hendricks, and if ever there was a time GSP could be beaten, it'd be now. They're looking for a legacy boost off GSP. It's the same as when everyone was calling out Wanderlei in the middleweight division right after he got knocked out by Rampage and Leben.
 
Davemeddlehed said:
Or because he's had 2+ years of inactivity, on top of his already declining performances against Condit and Hendricks, and if ever there was a time GSP could be beaten, it'd be now. They're looking for a legacy boost off GSP. It's the same as when everyone was calling out Wanderlei in the middleweight division right after he got knocked out by Rampage and Leben.
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His "Declining Performances" were his most memorably exciting fights of the tail end of his career... and I think his numbers would go up because of his recent absence. Oversaturation, long awaited return, etc.
 
Even after all the changes, 1.2m headlined by Tate and Nunes is a sweet number. I don't know what you clowns expected.
 
Neo Flesh said:
His "Declining Performances" were his most memorably exciting fights of the tail end of his career... and I think his numbers would go up because of his recent absence. Oversaturation, long awaited return, etc.
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I disagree.
 
Davemeddlehed said:
UFC 200 would likely have done much better had Jon Jones not been pulled last second, which created a mad scramble to figure out who was headlining.

Every one of Conor's ppv's have had a title fight as co main...
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Except for the next one, so we'll see if it matters or not.
 
Tormund said:
No, Brock did 500k against Overeem and his highest selling PPV without GSP & a milestone number was 1.1 million.
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That card was also on a Friday night, and the night before new years.
 
Davemeddlehed said:
That card was also on a Friday night, and the night before new years.
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Well still, his best PPV sales without GSP are 1.1 million. McGregor did better than that in his last 2 PPVs and probably his next one.
 
Tormund said:
Well still, his best PPV sales without GSP are 1.1 million. McGregor did better than that in his last 2 PPVs and probably his next one.
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McGregor had a world tour of press conferences to hype those cards up.
 
Tormund said:
No he didn't, he had 1 world tour and that PPV sold 850k. Do you watch MMA???
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You don't remember the ridiculous press conferences with RDA leading up to UFC 196? They started doing them in like January. Do YOU even watch mma?
 
Davemeddlehed said:
You don't remember the ridiculous press conferences with RDA leading up to UFC 196? They started doing them in like January. Do YOU even watch mma?
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You mean the one press conference? A press conference isn't a world tour dumbass. What about 194? Where was that press tour or does the one they had 9 months prior count?
 
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