UFC 189 - Test results summary

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  1. BuckyBarberFanClub

    BuckyBarberFanClub Gold Belt

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    The full test results from UFC 189 are available, and are an interesting read for those that are into things like that...

    Link (Pdf)

    Summary of results.

    NOTE: This is only NSAC ordered testing and doesnt include the new UFC/USADA testing

    Main Card: McGregor v Mendes
    McGregor and Mendes both subjected to one out of competition control and both pre and post fight night testing.

    McGregor
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    Mendes
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    Main Card: Lawler v McDonald

    Lawler
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    McDonald
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    Main Card: Stephens v Bermudez

    Stephens
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    Bermudez
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    Main Card - Nelson v Thatch and Almedia v Picket

    This is kinda depressing. Only the top three fights on the main card had NSAC done via the SMRTL Lab (Wada lab in Utah).

    The four other fighters on the main card were only subjected to ONE test which was analysed by Quest Diagnostics as opposed to SMRTL for anabolic agents, masking agents and diuretics

    Prelims

    The following fighters were tested ONCE analysed for anabolic agents, masking agents and diuretics by quest.

    Brown, Cedeno, Means, Howard, Swick, Garbrandt, Pfister, Garcia, Smolka, Seery, Pendred, Birones

    Additionally

    Howard, Smolka, Seery, Pendred, were all tested for recreational drugs.

    Its pretty depressing, that only 3 fights on the card had pre fight, post fight and random testing from NSAC. The bulk of the fighters having just a single fight night test.

    (Of couse that doesnt include USADA testing)
     
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  2. xFeeLPaiN

    xFeeLPaiN Purple Belt

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    so to summarize it if i got it correctly Lawler is the most " suspicious " one ?
     
  3. BuckyBarberFanClub

    BuckyBarberFanClub Gold Belt

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    Um... on the surface. Im waiting on second opinions :eek:
     
  4. Ramificatio

    Ramificatio Green Belt

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    No shit, those high "normal" scores and then big drop offs are absurd.
     
  5. Doomer

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    Wow... Conor (34ng/dl), especially Chad Mendes, Rory McDonald and Stephens having such low testosterone level. I am more and more surprised those elite athletes having lower testosterone levels than average male of their age. Interesting.
     
  6. fearoth

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    I am doctor and I can say that all those results are normal.

    Conor & Lawler are just genetic freaks.
     
  7. Peteyandjia

    Peteyandjia Winter Orchid Staff Member Forum Administrator

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    Sherdog Experts Roundtable:

    We Are All Endocrinologists Edition
     
  8. Doomer

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    Hahahahahahahaha
     
  9. Rex Kwon Do

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    I'm not a medical doctor, just a PhD in biochemistry, so my knowledge is more theoretical than practical, but I agree, everything looks normal and Conor's/Lawler's results are completely in line with those you would expect from proverbial "genetic freaks."
     
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    That's not even fair to say. TS should have withheld his commentary.
     
  11. Micsterator

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    Agree, especially in light of Doc's x 2 input above.
     
  12. BuckyBarberFanClub

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    Yeh, i wouldnt say suspicious, i would say "interesting";)

    Its actually interesting just seeing the numbers and seeing pre-fight v post fight dropoffs etc.

    Honestly looking at the numbers, some odd things in McGregors, and Lawlers are just all over the place. Downside is, because they only tested the main 6 fighters properly means we are missing out on loads of data from the other fighters which could be interesting for comparison.

    For instance, whats causing the high ph of the McGregor and Lawler pre-fight samples. etc etc

    Fair point about my in thread comments though, have removed those so as not to push the narrative in one direction or the other.
     
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    [email protected]&WW Gold Belt

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    sherdog has a disproportionately high amount of doctors.
     
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    I like to play "Doctor" with my wife and she has her doctorate. Does that count?
     
  15. Ragnarocker

    Ragnarocker Banned Banned

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    Everyone with weird numbers is a genetic freak and then they get busted for PEDs. When will people learn?
     
  16. rjmbrd

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    Rex PhD, who knew!

    Would you mind unpacking 'genetic freak' for us laymen?
     
  17. Swing the Axe

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    Weight cuts?
     
  18. fightdonttweet

    fightdonttweet Banned Banned

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    Well you would think the best fighters in the world are more likely to be genetic freaks than the rest of the population.
     
  19. TheGrouch

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    I agree. No need to speculate unless you have an actual education on this subject.
     
  20. Rubberneck76

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    My question is why does Conor's hemoglobin spike from 4.49 to 13.5. He is the only one with a control that spiked significantly. All the guys tested are nearly the same levels. Conor's jumps over 200%. I'm not a doctor but that seems suspicious to me.
     

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