He didnt say that, he said they get 3% which is only counting ppv-buys and the gate. Counting merchandise and everything else at an event that generates money its probably even lower.
UFC 182 $59.95 X 750K = $45M PPV + $3.7M Gate = $48.7M VS $1.3M Fighters = 3% Revenue
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He didnt say that, he said they get 3% which is only counting ppv-buys and the gate. Counting merchandise and everything else at an event that generates money its probably even lower.
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Also, the UFC pays for all the marketing/promotion of the fight and the support staff needed to do this, including all the employees of the UFC . HBO amd Showtime absorb all of the costs for the big boxing fights which their existing infrastructure can withstand easily.
Not saying the fighters shouldn't get paid more but the business model for the UFC is never going to be boxing's.
Not saying the fighters shouldn't get paid more but the business model for the UFC is never going to be boxing's.
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You should take a business course before posting any further ts. Revenues aren't the same as profits. You need to factor in the cost of promoting, renting venue, deals with cable companies for PPV broadcasting, etc. By your logic every business would be profitable... which clearly isn't the case.
EX:
$48 mil
- $24 mil for ppv broadcast
- $10 mil venue rental/staffing
- $5 mil for promotion
- $2 mil for misc
= $7 mil in profits at best and that's not even considering taxes
Then you have to factor in the need to re-invest the remaining profits into the next show to continue operations. When all is said and done, what the owners actually pocket are marginal. It seems the UFC does well enough to recycle in those profits to continue their shows. This is why most MMA orgs fail, they either pocket the miniscule profit and/or don't make enough to continue running their shows. Any business person will tell you that MMA is a tough business model to operate and remain profitable, if it wasn't the case StrikeForce and all other B leagues wouldn't have flopped.
If you're main concert is fighter pay, you should step up and foot the bill. It'll be a noble cause on your part for being so thoughtful.
EX:
$48 mil
- $24 mil for ppv broadcast
- $10 mil venue rental/staffing
- $5 mil for promotion
- $2 mil for misc
= $7 mil in profits at best and that's not even considering taxes
Then you have to factor in the need to re-invest the remaining profits into the next show to continue operations. When all is said and done, what the owners actually pocket are marginal. It seems the UFC does well enough to recycle in those profits to continue their shows. This is why most MMA orgs fail, they either pocket the miniscule profit and/or don't make enough to continue running their shows. Any business person will tell you that MMA is a tough business model to operate and remain profitable, if it wasn't the case StrikeForce and all other B leagues wouldn't have flopped.
If you're main concert is fighter pay, you should step up and foot the bill. It'll be a noble cause on your part for being so thoughtful.
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Mmmm... an MBA from the Sherdog School of Business eh??? Ahaha
NFL, MLB, & NHL players get an average of 50% of the TOTAL REVENUE of each league Einstein. That's not total profit, net profit or any other kinda' profit. For boxing it's even more.
e.g.
Entire NFL revenue pie regardless of number of dollars brought in. Revenue share for the players vs revenue share for the owners/league as a slice of a total money generated pie.
2010 Total NFL League Gross Revenue Chart
NFL League & Team Costs from 'their' 50% Total Revenue Pie EX:
- NFL head office NYC
- NFL executive & HQ staff
- NFL travelling staff for each game
- Arena purchase?/rental?
- NFL productions/Films
- Marketing & promotion
- NFL Legal
- Team infrastructures
- Team football equipment
- Team coaches & coaching staff
- Team doctors & surgeons
- Team medical supplies
- Team trainers
- Team training facilities & equipment
- Team food (1700 players X up to 3 meal/per day pre-season & in season)
- Team sport's nutrition suppliments
- Plane flights 32 teams X 53 players = 1,696 players X 16 games = 27,136 plane tickets (just for demonstration purposes)
- 30k+ 4/5 star hotel accomodations per season
- NFL infratructure investment
- Team's infrastructure investement
- NFL international market investment & HQ's
- and on and on... and on and on... and on and on
...And that all comes from 50% of the total revenue pie... before taxes, before expenses, then the player get their half of the whole pie.
It's not about the revenue numbers for the NFL or the UFC it is whether UFC fighters are getting a fair share of all the revenues their blood, sweat, and likenesses for eternity. This is how any elite major professioanl sport in the world works.
Is it fair that UFC fighters at UFC 182 got 3%?, 5%?, 10%, or even 15% (ya sure!) of ALL the revenue their fights and faces generate for eternity???
GTFO! It's a joke. The other major league sports athletes get around 50% of ALL the revenue generated and the teams/leagues have potential owners lining up out the door for new franchises. The waiting list times are beyond eternity.
The UFC made Dana White filthy rich and the Fertitta's billionaries. The fighters have had at least an equal role in making all that possible. Still 90% live in a shit backroom and can't pay their training bills or for their family. A lot have to have to work at others jobs to pay for fighting in the UFC. Why sould these guys pay with their blood for Dana & Lorenzo's international expansion and quest for world domination. A lot of of those millions have being thrown away in their world expansion flop and a whole bunch of other promotional flops.
All of this shit was settled in the 50's-70's in every major professional sport where the owners where living like kings while their players had to go home in the off season and work so they could afford to play another season in the big leagues. The courts sided with those guys, and they will side with that side again here.
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Mmmm... an MBA from the Sherdog School of Business eh??? Ahaha
NFL, MLB, & NHL players get an average of 50% of the TOTAL REVENUE of each league Einstein. That's not total profit, net profit or any other kinda' profit. For boxing it's even more.
e.g.
Entire NFL revenue pie regardless of number of dollars brought in. Revenue share for the players vs revenue share for the owners/league as a slice of a total money generated pie.
2010 Total NFL League Gross Revenue Chart
NFL League & Team Costs from 'their' 50% Total Revenue Pie EX:
- NFL head office NYC
- NFL executive & HQ staff
- NFL travelling staff for each game
- Arena purchase?/rental?
- NFL productions/Films
- Marketing & promotion
- NFL Legal
- Team infrastructures
- Team football equipment
- Team coaches & coaching staff
- Team doctors & surgeons
- Team medical supplies
- Team trainers
- Team training facilities & equipment
- Team food (1700 players X up to 3 meal/per day pre-season & in season)
- Team sport's nutrition suppliments
- Plane flights 32 teams X 53 players = 1,696 players X 16 games = 27,136 plane tickets (just for demonstration purposes)
- 30k+ 4/5 star hotel accomodations per season
- NFL infratructure investment
- Team's infrastructure investement
- NFL international market investment & HQ's
- and on and on... and on and on... and on and on
...And that all comes from 50% of the total revenue pie... before taxes, before expenses, then the player get their half of the whole pie.
It's not about the revenue numbers for the NFL or the UFC it is whether UFC fighters are getting a fair share of all the revenues their blood, sweat, and likenesses for eternity. This is how any elite major professioanl sport in the world works.
Is it fair that UFC fighters at UFC 182 got 3%?, 5%?, 10%, or even 15% (ya sure!) of ALL the revenue their fights and faces generate for eternity???
GTFO! It's a joke. The other major league sports athletes get around 50% of ALL the revenue generated and the teams/leagues have potential owners lining up out the door for new franchises. The waiting list times are beyond eternity.
The UFC made Dana White filthy rich and the Fertitta's billionaries. The fighters have had at least an equal role in making all that possible. Still 90% live in a shit backroom and can't pay their training bills or for their family. A lot have to have to work at others jobs to pay for fighting in the UFC. Why sould these guys pay with their blood for Dana & Lorenzo's international expansion and quest for world domination. A lot of of those millions have being thrown away in their world expansion flop and a whole bunch of other promotional flops.
All of this shit was settled in the 50's-70's in every major professional sport where the owners where living like kings while their players had to go home in the off season and work so they could afford to play another season in the big leagues. The courts sided with those guys, and they will side with that side again here.
Lol, your rebuttal was to bring up the NFL, NHL, MLB? How old are you kid? I wanna give you some credit but your beatin' yourself up here... You do realize that the UFC's networth is equal to the networth of a the Dallas Cowboys right? It's a single team. Let's do math bud: how many NFL teams are there in all?
For homework, go back and research how long it took the big leagues like the NFL, MLB, NHL to establish themselves enough to be able to dole out such paychecks. Heck, let's throw in boxing for a case study.
Come back when you're done with your new assignments.
