Tyron Woodley: Rousey vs Cyborg wouldn't be competitive

We all know thats why ronda wants cyborg at 135. It won't be the same cyborg. Just like if ronda dropped to 125, she wouldn't be as good either. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. That being said cyborg would still probably beat ronda at 135 and would crush her at 140-145. The truth is it should be at 140. Why is it all of a sudden acceptable to call someone out and want them to come down in weight? When any man has ever cleaned his division out he moves up to challenge himself but some how its ok for ronda top puss out and call someone down. Ridiculous. As anyone with a truth seeking mind will tell you ronda is scared period. Even little kids know this...

If floyd mayweather can get guys fight at his weight class why can't ronda?
 
I'm saying that the depth of talent of WBW is greater than WFW in the same way as depth of talent at HW is greater than SHW

Ok skold.
I agree that Rousey's recent competition is slightly less terrible than Cyborg's. But not by a margin that is significant.
 
Woodley should focus on Hendricks right now, he's got his hands full
 
Ok skold.
I agree that Rousey's recent competition is slightly less terrible than Cyborg's. But not by a margin that is significant.

It's by a huge margin, actually.

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Notice that five of Ronda's opponents are on that list while NONE of Cyborg's opponents are on that list.
 
Still feeling the effects of Marquardt's Tekken combo I see.
 
Ok skold.
I agree that Rousey's recent competition is slightly less terrible than Cyborg's. But not by a margin that is significant.

As someone has already pointed out its by quite a significant margin.. not "slightly less terrible" as you dismissively tried to put it. Not to mention Cyborgs entire career has an asterisk next to it due to steroid use. Would she have beat Gina or Coenen clean? I have my doubts
 
Hell, if we use Tapology's p4p female fighter rankings dated today, only one of Ronda's opponents is not top-50 ranked while only two of Cyborg's opponents are top-50 ranked.

The discrepancy between Ronda's and Cyborg's opponents is huge.
 
Are you guys just seriously this moronic??

When has Ronda ever said she doesn't want the fight? She has consistently said, make 135. And rightfully so, Cyborg needs Ronda more than Ronda needs her.

When she offered to fight Carano at any weight.
 
When she offered to fight Carano at any weight.

Carano isn't Cyborg.

Carano actually has leverage as a significant PPV draw with some level of fame, that and if you believe Rousey is actually respected by Rousey.

Cyborg has no leverage. She isn't famous, nor does she have a track record as being a significant PPV draw. And if you believe Rousey, she doesn't respect Cyborg in the least.

If I'm selling a product to two companies, why would I sell at a better price to one company versus another? Sometimes it's due to leverage. Sometimes it's because I have a better relationship with one company versus another.

That's how free markets work.
 
I'm actually afraid that Rousey will end it quickly. I hope not though, I want a war from both these ladies even though a finish is more probable.
 
When black guy tries to be smart, this shit happens. Cyborg murk Ronda bad.
 
Ronda fought at 145 , mover to 135 running from cyborg.

The old Ronda ran to 135 to get away from Cyborg talk again, read up on some facts

It is pretty obvious that Cyborg is the reason the fight hasn't happened. She has ducked/ran, lied and changed her mind a hundred times about nearly everything you can think of over the last four years to the point that nothing she says or does can be taken seriously.

First, the histry of Ronda going to 135 is outlined in this historical sherdog thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/92583821-post954.html

Then, what happend next was that Ronda beat Budd and Cyborg got busted for steroids. Ronda still agrees to fight Cyborg at 145 (According to Cyborg and her lawyers) for the FW title. However, with Cyborg unable to get her suspension reduced SF gets rid of the 145 class, effectively cancelling the fight (Cyborg's ruins the fight #1).
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/4/9/29...on-upheld-strikeforce-ronda-rousey-female-mma

Cyborg then says she will fight Ronda at a catchweight of 140 (Aug 13, 2012)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/13/3240734/cris-cyborg-ronda-rousey-fight-catchweight

To which Ronda's manager agrees with VADA drug and hair folicle testing (Aug 19)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/20/3256102/ronda-rousey-drug-testing-cyborg-steroids-strikeforce-mma

To which Cyborg backs out almost instantly saying she "will fight at 145, no less" and that she is the champion (actually she wasn't, she was stripped of the belt), and Cyborg ruins the fight for a second time, and ducks Ronda directly for the first time.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/spor...ight-rousey-at-145-pounds----no-less/828222/1

Then the UFC buys SF and picks up Ronda's contract and creates the 135 class. Then, the UFC picks up Cyborg's contract and even offers to let her to go Invicta and make money while she trims down until she can make 135. They even offered to PAY Mike Dolce for her to help her lose the weight.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/...es-services-to-get-cyborg-to-135-ronda-rousey
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/12/...dy-fat-percentage-cain-velasquez-ronda-rousey


Cyborg responds by asking to be released from the UFC. (Cyborg ruins the fight #3, Cyborg ducks Ronda #2)

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Then, the UFC gets cozy with Invicta, puts them on fightpass and makes an agreement that Cyborg will get into the UFC if she makes 135. Cyborg signs a contract to make 135 in Dec 2014, but continues to lift weights on a daily basis and doesn't even try to cut the weight, pulling out of the fight and saying she will continue to fight at 145, but that she will still fight Ronda at 145, effectively ducking the fight again (duck #3) by not agreeing to the terms that will get her the bout agreement

This doesn't even take into account all the times Cyborg says she is going to 135, then she will die if she does, then she will be fine, then dead again ... etc.

Here is Cyborg weighing in at 140

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http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/elitexc-unfinished-business-weigh-in-results


she doesn't exactly look like a concentration camp victim, she is still carrying a ton of muscle mass. She just has to drop five pounds of it and the fight is on. Cyborg is just too psychologically attached/addicted to her muscle mass to let it go. She knows she can keep her name in the headlines by barking at Ronda from a distance, while never having to actually take the fight.

Cyborg has no leverage to dictate the terms. Ronda is going nowhere, she is a stationary target, if Cyborg wants the fight, she knows where she has to go to get it.

The day before her Invicta weigh-in against Tweet, Cyborg said she could "make 140 tomorrow"
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/cyborg...ufc-champ-ronda-rousey-at-140-pounds-tomorrow

but since she says she currently walks around at 175
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that means she is saying she can fight at a weight 35 pounds below her walkaround weight, but claimed it was physically impossible, and maybe even fatal, if she tried to cut from her walkaround weight of 160 (see video above) down to 135 back when she asked to be released from the UFC, even though that is only 25 pounds. The only conclusion was that she JUST DIDN'T WANT THE FIGHT, since she could have clearly cut the weight.

So lose five pounds of muscle from where you were before and make the fight. The UFC wasn't willing to make a catchweight fight for Carano ("White made it clear that if such a fight would happen, it would have to occur at 135 pounds."), so they sure aren't going to make one for you.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/9...y-say-gina-carano-deserves-an-immediate-title

Quit running, or does she only want to fight with a huge weight advantage where she can alter the scale to make weight? Complete lack of class and sportsmanship.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/details-of-the-cyborg-vs-akano-controversy-2

but of course Cyborg won't cut the weight, here you can hear in her own words at 4:40 that she has no desire to fight without having a huge size advantage.

 
Hell, if we use Tapology's p4p female fighter rankings dated today, only one of Ronda's opponents is not top-50 ranked while only two of Cyborg's opponents are top-50 ranked.

The discrepancy between Ronda's and Cyborg's opponents is huge.

Cyborg's best wins are Marloes, who was beaten by Miesha Tate and Baszler, who was beat by Bethe Correia. Cyborg has the ultimate inflated record.
 
Carano isn't Cyborg.

Carano actually has leverage as a significant PPV draw with some level of fame, that and if you believe Rousey is actually respected by Rousey.

Cyborg has no leverage. She isn't famous, nor does she have a track record as being a significant PPV draw. And if you believe Rousey, she doesn't respect Cyborg in the least.

If I'm selling a product to two companies, why would I sell at a better price to one company versus another? Sometimes it's due to leverage. Sometimes it's because I have a better relationship with one company versus another.

That's how free markets work.
So Carano is famous? Almost nobody who is not in to MMA doesnt know who is she.
 
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