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  1. I am your real dad I am surrounded by NERDs !!! Yellow Card

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    Yes, if they are a PUBLISHER.
    But not if they are a PLATFORM.
     
  2. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Ah, the race argument. Inevitable, I suppose (btw freedom of association extends to businesses, not just individuals). More importantly, we're back to the government?
    So we should let the government infringe here because expressions of speech that don't align with your preferences need regulation. I don't know how some of you don't see the irony of these arguments.

    It's always interesting when people don't realize that freedom of speech includes the freedom to not be associated with speech you don't agree with.
     
  3. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I think we can agree that I think your definition is wrong.
     
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  4. BarryDillon Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    CAPITALIZING doesn't really HELP YOUR argument.
     
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  5. Big Brain you poor fools Double Yellow Card

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    if you cease to strive to understand, then you will know---without understanding
     
  6. Hadron90 Brown Belt

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    So no response? You believe businesses should be allowed to proudly declare they won't serve blacks?

    Yes. Government should regulate online social media so that all people have access and their God-given rights are respected.
     
  7. Rational Poster War Room Messiah

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    They don't get to decide. If Twitch or Reddit are deemed publishers, all similar sites would also be publishers. If reddit becomes a publisher then so are all public web forums like even this one.

    Someone won't be able to just make a right wing reddit and claim themselves as a platform.

    Man you're fucking dumb.

    <Dany07>
     
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  8. fizban Blue Belt Platinum Member

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    if a private entity wants to cancel a known racist account then good for them. leave the government out of private businesses-- literally.
     
  9. James Bomb Red Belt

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    No, this simply isn't true. Repeating it more and more times doesn't make it any more correct.

    Section 230 was added to the Communications Decency Act to address the "moderators dilemma", whereby companies were incentivized to not take any moderator action against any obscene or hateful material because they would be subject to libel laws for content they left up. So the law was written to do the opposite of what you gullible shitheads want to do in this case.

    Trump can't roll the protections that the law provides back without Congress changing the law itself. If he attempts to force the FCC to issue regulations that are contrary to the law or legal precedent, the government will almost certainly lose in court.

    Pretty much every article from a reputable news organization will point out that there are major constitutional issues with Trumps attempted approach. It's a whole lot of nothing from an administration that specializes in taking a fundamentally stupid approach to almost everything it does.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...argely-toothless-legal-experts-say-2020-05-28
     
  10. Rational Poster War Room Messiah

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    Here let me help fill his shoes.

    MARXISM MARXISM MARXISM MARXISM.
     
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  11. Ûdun Ghuephd большой ошибкой

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    This thread is a great read in just how retarded liberals are, LMFAO
     
  12. I am your real dad I am surrounded by NERDs !!! Yellow Card

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    That is true.



    UNTIL THEY ARE NOT A PLATFORM ANYMORE.

    Publishers have always been libel.
     
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    There is literally no requirement that a platform be neutral in order to receive Section 230 protections.

    That is just made up bullshit.

    https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/5/16/18626779/ron-wyden-section-230-facebook-regulations-neutrality

    Emily Stewart
    Yes, that’s actually one of the things I wanted to talk about, this neutrality issue that has come up — suggestions that Section 230 requires platforms to be neutral.

    Ron Wyden
    Section 230 is not about neutrality. Period. Full stop. 230 is all about letting private companies make their own decisions to leave up some content and take other content down.

    You can have a liberal platform; you can have conservative platforms. And the way this is going to come about is not through government but through the marketplace, citizens making choices, people choosing to invest. This is not about neutrality. It’s never been about the republisher.


    In the law that I wrote with Congressman Cox, in its language, we were creating what would be called interactive computer services, which would mean making sure more public voices were heard.

    There’s a lot of nonsense out there about what this stuff is all about.

    Emily Stewart
    When you hear some of your conservative colleagues make certain arguments about neutrality and what 230 does and doesn’t mean, do you think they’re being disingenuous, or is it a fundamental misunderstanding in Congress about what Section 230 is?

    Ron Wyden
    I never want to go after people’s sincerity. I’m sure there’s always kind of the base that gets worked up, and the base hears that somehow this is being used against them.

    There are some on the far right who I think are working the refs, kind of like James Harden in basketball, but for the most part, I think what happens is it comes from the base that there is some kind of monster plot against conservatives. And then conservatives say, well, then the answer is to have government programs, fairness doctrines. And nobody says, haven’t we spent the last half-century being against that stuff?

    That’s why I try to make the point that this is about the marketplace. In a lot of ways, 230 ought to be really appealing to conservatives who have been arguing that they’re the libertarians and free speech advocates. I’ve already said that the marketplace — shareholders, customers — can decide whether to use and fund the platform. Government isn’t making that decision. You want to throw 230 out the window for more government? How is that consistent with conservative principles?
     
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  14. I am your real dad I am surrounded by NERDs !!! Yellow Card

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    yes.
    That is what I have been trying to say to you. Why are you acting like we don't agree on this?

    No one is making any published right wing site. What are you talking about you absolute Muppet?

    A PLATFORM for right and left wing to share ideas, debate, have different opinions without socialist whine bags trying to censor everyone so they can push their propaganda machine....... will pop up eventually. Then all the new publishers will go the way of television or MySpace.

    Are you this absent minded all the time?
     
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    Meanwhile, the White House is doing everything they can to stop Donald Trump’s niece from releasing her book.
     
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  16. I am your real dad I am surrounded by NERDs !!! Yellow Card

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    I was just making sure you cats were picking up on the key words and knew the definitions.

    Sorry if I startled you.
     
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  17. Ûdun Ghuephd большой ошибкой

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    A book she was legally prevented from releasing due to signing contractual agreements many years ago but hey, let's not let facts ruin a hate narrative
     
  18. Oceanmachine Purple Belt

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    This will turn on you. So naive man

    Oh well
     
  19. I am your real dad I am surrounded by NERDs !!! Yellow Card

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    Those "opinions" are cute.
    I like how these socialists like free market.
    At least long enough to spread their propaganda and silence conservative voices.



    Let me help you son.




    Too bad its backfiring again on you cucks........AGAIN.
    TRUMP TRAIN!!!!
    2020
     
  20. Corn Pop Hombre Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Republican victim culture is absolutely out of control.
     
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