Turning a hook over?

[codymiller1]

what exactly is this? im reading in Joe fraziers book he says to

have your palm facing you as you throw the hook from your hip but to turn the punch over so your palm is down when it lands

is this correct?

 

[MIDMOBOX]

Joe Frazier(34(27kos 4L and 1D) (Box Rec Record http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=147)could tell me to stand on one foot while screaming theres no place like home and I would have to believe I would win.

He is correct however with one slight correction, I would avoid throwing anything from the hip unless you are in fact Joe Frazier. But the hook should be turned over so it strikes palm down.

 

[Luke Bucknell]

yes it is correct; heck its in a book lol

the uppercut and the hook have an almost identical starting position, that is like the book says with your palm facing you tucked in somewhere under the shoulder of the arm you are punching with. the difference being when you throw the hook, as the hand comes up you roate your shoulder clockwise so that the fore-arm ends up parallel with the ground and the palm is facing down, and your thumb is pointing straight at you if u open your fist.

that i think is what the book is trying to say

 

[Sinister]

He is correct however with one slight correction, I would avoid throwing anything from the hip

Actually I think you mis-interpret.

When he says throwing from the hip he's not specifically talking about having your hand down at your hip (which is what I assume you think is in-need of correction). He means the power generation is from hip-rotation, not the arm. Which is indeed correct as well. A lot of guys don't do this, but there's a hip-rotation and pivot that goes into a proper hook. That's what's meant by "from the hip" when it's used as an expression like that typically by the old-timers.

 

[codymiller1]

Actually I think you mis-interpret.

When he says throwing from the hip he's not specifically talking about having your hand down at your hip (which is what I assume you think is in-need of correction). He means the power generation is from hip-rotation, not the arm. Which is indeed correct as well. A lot of guys don't do this, but there's a hip-rotation and pivot that goes into a proper hook. That's what's meant by "from the hip" when it's used as an expression like that typically by the old-timers.

yes thanks for clearing that up for me thats what i meant..

thanks guys i had no idea you were supposed to turn over the hook

 

[MIDMOBOX]

KK I can't disagree with that statement. Have not read the book I so assumed that he mean actually throwing from the hip which he did alot when throwing bodyshots.(Maybe not the actual hip but in a lower hand postion than what most would consider ideal) Drawing power from your hips is critial.

 

[swazymack]

That boxing record says Joe is 2 and 34?

 

[aries]

Depends on what type of hook surely? Is he saying there is only one type of hook?

If its an outside hook as Jack Dempsey termed it then yes the palm is down but if its an inside hook/shovel hook then the palm is facing you.

 

[MIDMOBOX]

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000147

Sorry this one should be correct.

 

[JohnnyBuddha]

Actually I think you mis-interpret.

When he says throwing from the hip he's not specifically talking about having your hand down at your hip (which is what I assume you think is in-need of correction). He means the power generation is from hip-rotation, not the arm. Which is indeed correct as well. A lot of guys don't do this, but there's a hip-rotation and pivot that goes into a proper hook. That's what's meant by "from the hip" when it's used as an expression like that typically by the old-timers.

Yeah, that captures it nicely. The trainer I worked with used to have a somewhat rectangular pad (long side going from top to bottom) attached to a pole. We'd stand perpendicular to the pad and hook it so an orthodox stance would be hitting it with lead left hooks. Standing from a still position and throwing hooks at this target really helped me shorten my hooks and develop a lot of pop with minimal arm motion. It's good for making you pop your hips and turn on the ball of your front foot.

Another good exercise for this was shadowboxing other punches and throwing a hook at the pad. For example, throwing a jab and then a right cross (both just shadowboxing) and then following up with a lead left hook to the pad. Makes a great popping sound.

Palm down or facing your face? I was always taught to turn it over so your palm faces your face, but I was never told why. My trainer wasn't that dogmatic though; I'm sure if I'd trained with him longer he would have shown me how or when turning your palm down is appropriate. I'm sure it has its benefits.

 

[aries]

Palm down or facing your face? I was always taught to turn it over so your palm faces your face, but I was never told why. My trainer wasn't that dogmatic though; I'm sure if I'd trained with him longer he would have shown me how or when turning your palm down is appropriate. I'm sure it has its benefits.

Way I was always taught was short range, palm facing. Long range palm down. Inside and outside hooks. For long hooks it makes sense when you think about the knuckles making contact first. You can't impact with the knuckles correctly if you use palm facing for long hooks, they just become slaps then.

But for short hooks if you throw with palm down the elbow is up and you can't get your weight behind the shot. It becomes just an arm movement instead of getting your body weight going through your powerline.