Elections Trump: We have to use military to target radicals and enemy from within

Yes. "Well documented".

Let me ask you. If he becomes president, who exactly do you think he's going to use the military on?

This is like the only president in 50 years to not use the military. But now hes gonna invade peoples homes or something.
He already tried before during BLM. Generals told him no. In Project 2025 it outlines that they should replace all civil servants and replace them with MAGA loyalists. We see that the JD Vance pick follows that same ideology. Choose a guy who isn't going to certify the election like Pence failed to do. Now right-wingers will say Project 2025 isn't Trump's plan. Maybe, maybe not. Point is I don't care, there's enough evidence that Trump hangs around these people on private jets and were former staff members. I'm going to assume he wants to use the military on fellow Americans and not vote for the guy. Doesn't seem pro-America to threaten other people who don't agree with everything you say.
 
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Ok. Look. None of your examples are him wanting to use the military on people just for "being against him". Theyre almost all cases of violent rioters.

Wtf, man? How are any of these things arguments that hes just gonna start randonly throwing out military attacks on people?

And a 1990 interview where he said the the communist party displayed strength? Holy reach.


Examples of trump wanting to use the military on:

-peaceful protesters
-violent protesters
-undocumented immigrants (aim for their legs, he said).
-“dangerous neighborhoods”
-democratic crime dens (his words)
-“criminals” in blue cities

He pointedly said he’s not going to follow the Law and wait for the local government to ask for help.

He considers protests to be riots (see: Tiananmen Square comment) and spoke admirably of the Chinese government for their militaristic crack down of those PRO DEMOCRACY PROTESTS.

Tried to use the insurrection act twice to use troops on protesters and illegal immigrants.

His co-conspirator told their lawyer “That’s what the insurrection act is for” when informed there would be violent riots all over the country if Trump attempted to remain in office since there is no proof of the election being stolen.
 
Look. I don't really like to use "TDS", even though Im sure I've been guilty of it at some point. But part what makes people use it is because so many people must take anything Trump says in 100% the worst way they can possibly interpret it.

It's like when you've broken up with a girlfriend and now everything you say is some kind of back handed insult to her.

He 100% did not say he would "use the military to attack political opponents". He said it might be necessary for "sick, radical, left lunatics". Now, do you not see a difference between "Political opponents" and "Sick , radical lunatics"? Because thats precisely the point I'm talking about where everything must be interpreted as negatively as possible, even if it's disingenuous.

I think I know what you're gonna say, though. Something about "Well, who do you think he's talking about? Obviously anyone who questions him" or similar.

Look, all you have to do is change "leftist" to "conservative" and put the words in Kamalas or Bidens mouth. So if Kamala says:
"I think a bigger problem is the enemy within. Radical, [conservative] lunatics and that should be handled, if necessary, by the military"

Regardless of whether you'd agree with her or not, you would not be saying "Kamala just threatened to use the military on her political opponents". I think there'd be a not insignificant number of people just saying: "Yeah, jan 6th. Shes right."
well I agree that Democrats stupidly take trump at the worste possible interpretation sometimes... or even a lot of times.

but that's because trump is childish and petty enough to intentionally phrase things that can be taken many different ways. he is a skilled and practiced liar whose intent is to make people misunderstand him to sow division and chaos because that is how he attempts and often success in controlling people.

its one of the characteristics of trump that I think reveals how profoundly unfit he is to be the president of the United States and its a lesson EVERYONE who is in public speaking learns very quickly. anybody with even a minutia of intelligence learns to phrase things very carefully. we learn this because we get misunderstood by people often enough to make corrections.

trump knows this but instead of learning the lesson that all people learn the villainous loser sees an opportunity to sow misunderstanding and troll the american people.

obviously no responsible human being would be willing to do this. and as I have said many times on this forum and Obama said recently.... if you knew someone like trump in your life or workplace who did this you would have seriously misgivings about them and in most cases would cut them out of your life.

but with trump you obfuscate and defend him instead. its pathetic and contradictory.
 
This is a lie and again it's why I think the Republican party has lost their mind. You know for a fact they did not cheer on or condone the burning of those cities. And you also know that it was just a very small percentage of people engaged in that kind of violence.

So why do you guys lie every time you talk instead of actually saying how things happened??

The reason is because if you speak honestly then it will reveal to how foolish you are and how wrong you are.
They're idiots. They have to know they are lying. Let's contrast the two.

1. BLM protests were months long and took place in cities all over the country. 99% of the protests there were peaceful. The goal was to raise awareness of police brutality. That 1 percent that did damage to businesses should be condemned and they were condemned by both left and right.

2. Jan 6 was to delay the certification of the election. It took place over the course of a few hours and the difference is every single person involved there had bad intentions. It wasn't like the majority had good intentions like with BLM. The goal was to make Trump president again. 4 years later and people still downplay this event and the fake elector plot.

I really struggle to see how people can't see how these two events were very different.
 
Fot those wondering when trump wanted to use actual live rounds on protestors. Was when in dc when he wanted his photo op to hold a bible outside a church
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They're idiots. They have to know they are lying. Let's contrast the two.

1. BLM protests were months long and took place in cities all over the country. 99% of the protests there were peaceful. The goal was to raise awareness of police brutality. That 1 percent that did damage to businesses should be condemned and they were condemned by both left and right.

2. Jan 6 was to delay the certification of the election. It took place over the course of a few hours and the difference is every single person involved there had bad intentions. It wasn't like the majority had good intentions like with BLM. The goal was to make Trump president again. 4 years later and people still downplay this event and the fake elector plot.

I really struggle to see how people can't see how these two events were very different.
I asked my 14 year old daughter what her opinion was of the republicans and their many and varied lies and conspiracy theories and she quietly said. "I don't think they believe what they are saying".
 
well I agree that Democrats stupidly take trump at the worste possible interpretation sometimes... or even a lot of times.

but that's because trump is childish and petty enough to intentionally phrase things that can be taken many different ways. he is a skilled and practiced liar whose intent is to make people misunderstand him to sow division and chaos because that is how he attempts and often success in controlling people.

its one of the characteristics of trump that I think reveals how profoundly unfit he is to be the president of the United States and its a lesson EVERYONE who is in public speaking learns very quickly. anybody with even a minutia of intelligence learns to phrase things very carefully. we learn this because we get misunderstood by people often enough to make corrections.

trump knows this but instead of learning the lesson that all people learn the villainous loser sees an opportunity to sow misunderstanding and troll the american people.

obviously no responsible human being would be willing to do this. and as I have said many times on this forum and Obama said recently.... if you knew someone like trump in your life or workplace who did this you would have seriously misgivings about them and in most cases would cut them out of your life.

but with trump you obfuscate and defend him instead. its pathetic and contradictory.
I mean, for the most part I agree. He's not fit for office. The bigger issue since 2016 is that all of the candidates suck, and everyone wants to make it a team sport instead of saying that for the most powerful elected office in the country, we should have better choices.
 
I dont even know how to respond to this level of clown-shit. Like if he wins he'd say "And now MISSILES on Kamala for beating me in a debate". "Insult my hand size, will you? Well RELEASE THE DRONES". As if he has absolute power over everything when he's president.

The thing is, people say the most absurd crap about what he's gonna do and all the threat poses, and then if he gets elected none of it will happen and not single person would actually say "Hey, maybe thinking he'd use the military on someone for being in a different political party wasnt a thing he'd do".
Bro he literally tried to overturn the election results already. The idea he deserves a pass and should be allowed to be the nominee for any government post is the clown shit.

People like you still bending over backwards to defend this loser is just pathetic.
 
I mean, for the most part I agree. He's not fit for office. The bigger issue since 2016 is that all of the candidates suck, and everyone wants to make it a team sport instead of saying that for the most powerful elected office in the country, we should have better choices.
thanks for saying that. I did not expect that. but there is not an equivalency between kamala or any corporate dem and trump. trump is unfit for the presidency categorically and unequivocally. his willingness to divide and sow hatred and chaos is absolutely dangerous and profoundly irresponsible.

it is a false equivalency to put him on the same level as any dem on the scene right now.
 
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thanks for saying that. I did not expect that. but there is not an equivalency between kamala or any corporate dem and trump. trump is unfit for the presidency categorically and unequivocally. his willingness to divide and sow hatred and chaos is absolutely dangerous and profoundly irresponsible.

it is a false equivalence to put him on the same level as any dem on the scene right now.
I try not to play the "equivalency" game even though I probably do sometimes. I dont really try to say "X is worse" because I can understand why anybody would say "absolutely not" to any of these candidates. But, in my completely and totally anecdotal experience, I feel like I get far more people that prefer Trump that will still concede that he's a total joke, but it's a matter of terrible choices. I rarely, if ever, see people that are on team Kamala just be honest and say "She's clueless and nothing she says can be trusted". Its almost always an immediate deflection to Trump.
 
Bro he literally tried to overturn the election results already. The idea he deserves a pass and should be allowed to be the nominee for any government post is the clown shit.

People like you still bending over backwards to defend this loser is just pathetic.
WTF are you even on about? What "pass"? Saying he wants to use the military on deranged lunatics is different than using the military on people that dont like you? Now you're bringing up the 2020 election...for some reason?
 
WTF are you even on about? What "pass"? Saying he wants to use the military on deranged lunatics is different than using the military on people that dont like you? Now you're bringing up the 2020 election...for some reason?
Didn’t he name Adam Schiff as an “enemy within”?
 
we know what that means


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Why did that liberal dude not swallowed the semen 1st before protesting the Trumo rally?

So he was like giving a blowjob but then like hey I hate these Trumpsters I will scream at them while my mouth is filled with Semen!
 
I try not to play the "equivalency" game even though I probably do sometimes. I dont really try to say "X is worse" because I can understand why anybody would say "absolutely not" to any of these candidates. But, in my completely and totally anecdotal experience, I feel like I get far more people that prefer Trump that will still concede that he's a total joke, but it's a matter of terrible choices. I rarely, if ever, see people that are on team Kamala just be honest and say "She's clueless and nothing she says can be trusted". Its almost always an immediate deflection to Trump.
kamala is a little bit fake and she seems to be a typical politician who just goes where the wind blows. I do not think she is clueless or stupid or incompetent though.

that is clearly WAY better than trump who is a serial liar and divider and who intentionally is turning the country against itself and succeeding dangerously. and he is doing that not because he has some positive vision he wants to enact as president and he needs to divide people to get there. he does it totally and completely out of his own self interest and because of his own toxicity and internal disarray.

you would never allow a person in your own life to act and be like trump without serious consequences while kamala would only annoy you and piss you off.

trump is categorically unfit to be the president based completely on his character and he was never fit at any time in his life.

this is a choice between the status quo and something far far worse in trump which is absolutely just as bad or worse on greed and working for the wealthy over and above the average person but far far worse in a categories that did not exist in the presidency before he entered politics.

trump lies and practices double speck ONLY to divide and because he is filled with hate and poison.
 
WTF are you even on about? What "pass"? Saying he wants to use the military on deranged lunatics is different than using the military on people that dont like you? Now you're bringing up the 2020 election...for some reason?
He didn't just say deranged lunatics, he said "radical left lunatics" which he calls Kamala or literally all of his political opponents.

Do I think he will do it? I doubt it but it shows how much of a flagrant idiot that he is....You wouldn't be so generous in interpretation if any other politician said it? Would you?
 
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Why did that liberal dude not swallowed the semen 1st before protesting the Trumo rally?

So he was like giving a blowjob but then like hey I hate these Trumpsters I will scream at them while my mouth is filled with Semen!
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He didn't just say deranged lunatics, he said "radical left lunatics" which he calls Kamala or literally all of his political opponents.

Do I think he will do it? I doubt it but it shows how much of a flagrant idiot that he is....You wouldn't be so generous in interpretation if any other politician said it? Would you?
Like I said above, put the words in Kamala Harris mouth and she says something along the lines of "Radical, [conservative] lunatics and that should be handled, if necessary, by the military". Would I roll my eyes at her? Yes. Would I immediately go to the war room on sherdog and say "Kamala Harris wants to use the military on her political opponents"? No, because that would be stupid.
 
kamala is a little bit fake and she seems to be a typical politician who just goes where the wind blows. I do not think she is clueless or stupid or incompetent though.

that is clearly WAY better than trump who is a serial liar and divider and who intentionally is turning the country against itself and succeeding dangerously. and he is doing that not because he has some positive vision he wants to enact as president and he needs to divide people to get there. he does it totally and completely out of his own self interest and because of his own toxicity and internal disarray.

you would never allow a person in your own life to act and be like trump without serious consequences while kamala would only annoy you and piss you off.

trump is categorically unfit to be the president based completely on his character and he was never fit at any time in his life.

this is a choice between the status quo and something far far worse in trump which is absolutely just as bad or worse on greed and working for the wealthy over and above the average person but far far worse in a categories that did not exist in the presidency before he entered politics.

trump lies and practices double speck ONLY to divide and because he is filled with hate and poison.
Not trying to be a dick, but you immediately deflected to Trump.

Look Ive already conceded that Trump sucks. Just do the same for Kamala. I'm here, bro. I'll catch you. You can do it.

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I didnt say she was dumb, I said she was clueless. I think when you count how many times she says a catch phrase like "pay their fair share", or having a short circuit when her teleprompter goes out and she just says "32 days" over and over shows that she's just out of her depth. Thats not shameful. I'd be out of my depth in a presidential race, too. She's done nothing to earn it and accomplished nothing to display competency for the position. She was an unpopular, underperforming vice president that won literally zero delegate votes in 2020. Nothing she has done would make anyone see her as fit to be POTUS.
 
Not trying to be a dick, but you immediately deflected to Trump.

Look Ive already conceded that Trump sucks. Just do the same for Kamala. I'm here, bro. I'll catch you. You can do it.

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I didnt say she was dumb, I said she was clueless. I think when you count how many times she says a catch phrase like "pay their fair share", or having a short circuit when her teleprompter goes out and she just says "32 days" over and over shows that she's just out of her depth. Thats not shameful. I'd be out of my depth in a presidential race, too. She's done nothing to earn it and accomplished nothing to display competency for the position. She was an unpopular, underperforming vice president that won literally zero delegate votes in 2020. Nothing she has done would make anyone see her as fit to be POTUS.
why would i not speak about trump? all due respect man but you are avoiding my position. its not possible to try and make the two candidates equally bad. they just aren't.
 
why would i not speak about trump? all due respect man but you are avoiding my position. its not possible to try and make the two candidates equally bad. they just aren't.
Because you responded to my post where I said in my experience people on Trumps side more often can criticize and accept Trumps faults, but people on Harris' side almost always immediately deflect to Trump rather than accept criticism of Harris. And you responded by deflecting to Trump.

I never said they were equally bad, thats a subjective judgment anyway. I said I understand why anybody would say I cant vote for that person.

What am I avoiding? I just agreed Trump was unfit for office and also why Kamala Harris is not a good pick for POTUS. Do you agree or disagree that she is, in a vacuum all by herself without drawing a comparison, a poor choice for POTUS?
 
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