Social Trump to sign EO ending department of education today

[Khaosan]

I would usually be against decreasing investment in education but the kind of things they are teaching these days are appalling, so it's better to shut the whole thing down.

I honestly don’t know if this post is satire or not.

 

[djacobox372]

Sadly it will be the kids of parents who voted for trump who will have their schools defunded. Rich blue districts don't need federal grants.

 

[Michaelangelo]

Found it odd that the Dept of Agriculture is in charge of free school lunches

That’s an actual useful EO to impose you orange fuck

 

[Substance Abuse]

"Guys, I know our local school district is millions in the hole, but it's just not possible to tax rich people anymore money." - Local Leader funded by the local church.

This sums up about a fifth of the idiots in the War Room.

 

[Seano]

Whats the argument for not dismantling DOEducation? Not sure about all states but local property taxes fund most k-12 in my state. I don't really think DOE does a great job meeting their stated goals. We spent a 1/4 trillion dollars on DOE last year. Whats the net benefit? There are many schools where kids are not getting a quality education. Many schools are literally falling apart. Where is this money going?

 

[MrShady]

What's the argument for DOGE not dismantling and restructuring the DEA with more efficiency?

- Billions of dollars wasted on cannabis enforcement when it should be reallocated to fentanyl
- Legal hemp loophole allows for the sale and consumption of unregulated and toxic gas station "weed" and mail order "marijuana"
- Kids are at risk, in many cases no ID enforcement
- Cartels and black market thriving
- People are dying because the "weed" they're consuming in states that are not recreational is not regulated, full of pesticides and toxins = increase in psychosis or hospital visits



WHERE IS ELON AND TRUMP?

 

[nostradumbass]

Those are teacher salaries but doesn’t reflect what what schools are receiving or what students are paying. Teacher-student ratios and workloads in public schools are often unreasonable.

That's why I said per student spending. Average for private schools is $12,790 per student, average for public schools for 2021 was $14,347. DC is like $28,000 per student and they have the lowest literacy rates in the country.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Delete

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Whats the argument for not dismantling DOEducation? Not sure about all states but local property taxes fund most k-12 in my state. I don't really think DOE does a great job meeting their stated goals. We spent a 1/4 trillion dollars on DOE last year. Whats the net benefit? There are many schools where kids are not getting a quality education. Many schools are literally falling apart. Where is this money going?

Maybe in your state.

Go out into rural America and out of the suburbs. Property taxes do not even come close to being able to fund schools in these areas.

Also, even if property taxes are funding your schools budgets...the federal DOE is still dishing out grant money for improversished kids, special ed, and a whole host of other stuff. Literally, every school in the state is getting some form of federal grant money.

The only legitimate argument for dismantling the federal DOE is if they spread the responsibilities out to other agencies and keep a lot of those grants alive.

The funniest (and saddest) part of all this, is that it's likely to disproportionately affect poor red states that voted for this. It's funny, it's desk review season at my job. Every year we do desk reviews on CPA firms audit reports for state's school districts. The only districts that have money are the wealthier neighborhoods in the two large cities in my state. Outside of that, the financial statements are all in rough shape for virtually every other district with a few exceptions sprinkled in. And it's not like it's a mismanagement problem, it's just straight up underfunding.

 

[Seano]

Maybe in your state.

Go out into rural America and out of the suburbs. Property taxes do not even come close to being able to fund schools in these areas.

Also, even if property taxes are funding your schools budgets...the federal DOE is still dishing out grant money for improversished kids, special ed, and a whole host of other stuff.

The only legitimate argument for dismantling the federal DOE is if they spread the responsibilities out to other agencies and keep a lot of those grants alive.

The funniest (and saddest) part of all this, is that it's likely to disproportionately affect poor red states that voted for this lol

I'm as rural as it gets. I wish our schools got money from the government. Its killing us in terms of property tax up here in Maine. Nearly 50% of property taxes along the coast go to funding the schools, its insane. Especially considering how poorly our schools have performed over the past 10 years. edit- and especially considering we are amongst the highest taxed people in the country.

I'm not saying its all to blame on the DOE , just not seeing what DOE does that really makes much sense.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You're in a thread about your country ending it's department of education.

And you're stating non Americans have an issue with being confidently ignorant.

Holy fucking lack of self awareness.

What do the two have to do with each other?

A little reading comprehension goes a long way: I'm stating that some non-American WR posters have an issue with speaking about issues that they're uninformed about. I wasn't making a statement about entire countries' populations.

And I'm clearly not in favor of the Department of Education being gutted.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

I'm as rural as it gets. I wish our schools got money from the government. Its killing us in terms of property tax up here in Maine. Nearly 50% of property taxes along the coast go to funding the schools, its insane. Especially considering how poorly our schools have performed over the past 10 years. edit- and especially considering we are amongst the highest taxed people in the country.

I'm not saying its all to blame on the DOE , just not seeing what DOE does that really makes much sense.

Your schools do get money from the government.

Maine spent nearly 400 million in federal funding on elementary and secondary education in 2024 alone.

That's roughly 8% of all federal grant money coming into Maine.

Why is it insane that your property taxes go towards funding schools? What's insane is that you think Maine schools don't get federal grant money.

You're bitching about your property taxes right now.....hoooo boy do I have some bad news....it's about to go up if they loose 400 million in federal funding for your schools LMFAO. How do you think they will offset the loss?

Just think about this for 5 seconds. You're going to end up paying higher taxes to cover schools so you could subsidize Tesla, Space X, Amazon, Wal-Mart, or any other megacorp you can name.

I'm honestly baffled that you think the federal DOE doesn't make sense? What doesn't make sense about it? They subsidize poor ass areas so their schools can function. You say the schools suck, well yea, because they are underfunded and understaffed. You get 20-25 kids in a class and the schools are firing all their teacher's aids because they can't afford them or they quit because they can't live on $13 an hour lmao. Why do you think teachers get fucked so badly? My wife is an elementary school teacher. Makes $44k a year to do a job twice as hard as mine for less than half the money. That's the issue with education in this country.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Democratic-led states sue to halt Trump from dismantling US Education Department​

By Nate Raymond

• Democratic-led states call Education Department gutting unlawful
• Education Department says layoffs part of its 'final mission'
• Trump has called for department's shuttering

BOSTON, March 13 (Reuters) - A group of Democratic state attorneys general on Thursday filed a lawsuit seeking to block Republican U.S. President Donald Trump's administration from dismantling the U.S. Department of Education and halt it from laying off nearly half of its staff.

Attorneys general from 20 states and the District of Columbia filed the lawsuit, opens new tab in federal court in Boston after the Education Department on Tuesday announced plans to lay off more than 1,300 of its employees as part of the agency's "final mission."

Trump has vowed to eliminate the department, which oversees $1.6 trillion in college loans, enforces civil rights laws in schools and provides federal funding for needy districts. The job cuts, if implemented, would leave the department with 2,183 workers, down from 4,133 when Trump took office in January.

The layoffs are in addition to cuts in staff achieved through buyout offers and the firing of probationary employees carried out as part of Trump's sweeping effort to downsize the government, led by billionaire Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency.

The lawsuit argues that the massive job cuts will render the agency unable to perform core functions authorized by statute, including in the civil rights arena, effectively usurping Congress's authority in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

The lawsuit argued that Secretary of Education Linda McMahon "is not permitted to eliminate or disrupt functions required by statute, nor can she transfer the department's responsibilities to another agency outside of its statutory authorization."

"Neither President Trump nor his secretary have the power to demolish a congressionally-created department," Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Joy Campbell said in a statement.

Education Department spokesperson Madi Biedermann in a statement said Trump was "elected with a mandate from the American public to return education authority to the states." The job cuts were being carried out in compliance with all applicable regulations and laws, she said.

"They are strategic, internal-facing cuts that will not directly impact students and families," Biedermann said.

The department announced the planned layoffs, formally known within the government as a reduction in force, on Tuesday. Impacted department staff are set to be placed on administrative leave beginning on March 21.
The Education Department layoffs were launched just a week after the Republican-led U.S. Senate confirmed former pro-wrestling mogul McMahon to lead the agency.

Trump has said he would like McMahon "to put herself out of a job," and that he would like to immediately close the Education Department, an agency created by Congress in 1979 that has long drawn Republican ire.

In a Tuesday interview with Fox News, McMahon said Trump's "directive to me, clearly, is to shut down the Department of Education." She said that while Congress would be needed to close it, the layoffs were "the first step of eliminating what I think is bureaucratic bloat."

But New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat who is co-leading Thursday's lawsuit, said firing nearly half of the department's workforce would hurt students, particularly low-income ones and those with disabilities who rely on federal funding.

"This outrageous effort to leave students behind and deprive them of a quality education is reckless and illegal," she said.
Reporting by Nate Raymond in Boston; Editing by Andrea Ricci, Alexia Garamfalvi, Bill Berkrot and Aurora Ellis

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/de...smantling-us-education-department-2025-03-13/

 

[LeonardoBjj]

I'm honestly baffled that you think the federal DOE doesn't make sense? What doesn't make sense about it? They subsidize poor ass areas so their schools can function. You say the schools suck, well yea, because they are underfunded and understaffed. You get 20-25 kids in a class and the schools are firing all their teacher's aids because they can't afford them or they quit because they can't live on $13 an hour lmao. Why do you think teachers get fucked so badly? My wife is an elementary school teacher. Makes $44k a year to do a job twice as hard as mine for less than half the money. That's the issue with education in this country.

- Being a teacher is a thankless, sou-crushing, hard-job. I do prefer to work with inmates than with teens for example. My worst job was a short period at a school.

 

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[Loiosh]

Angela Collier is a science communicator with a PhD in physics who is almost never political. I've been following her for quite some time and this passionate rant about how conservatives have been killing education for decades took me completely by surprise.

The whole video is great but I bookmarked the part that really matters, which is fifteen minutes long. I know nobody will watch it but I keep hoping.