Social Trump is calling Joe Scarborough a murderer on Twitter

This is hilarious. You (unsurprisingly) don't like to source your own bullshit.


This is hilarious. You think that a President ceasing private resources under a state of emergency is something new and an example of "corruption." Even if you could define it as "corruption," it still wouldn't touch FISA court abuses. It's not even close. Your math is shit.


That is hilarious. Most of this is garbage that doesn't touch FISA court abuses or targeting political opponents with other government agencies. We have had contracts to sell weapons and training to the Saudi's for decades. The U.K. and France have also provided aide to Saudi Arabia. Trump's fake impeachment trial was premised on lies (as shown in a previous post).


That is hilarious. Yes. All one of them. I wonder if Mitt had any other motives that might have driven him to make that vote. Funny that not a single Republican in the house vote to impeach him though.


Just lol, you're fuggin hilarious with this shit. Just scream, "Mitt Romeny voted to impeach do'." over and over and it'll make Trump as corrupt as Obama

:D

Using taxpayer funds to source emergency medical supplies, then handing them, from the military, to private corporations to auction off, yes, that is corrupt. Good job not seeing the difference between an Kennedy order and what Trump is actually doing here.

And those trillions given to corporations? The President literally said he's the oversight. LOL, you're a clown!!

I do laugh at the "Any opposition to daddy, that's the corrupt stuff. RINOS!!!!" stuff, along with the idea that Michael Flynn is some normal citizen who was railroaded. All he did was lie about being a foreign agent when being a National Security advisor, gall!!!!

Let me guess, Obama targeted conservatives, and the FISA stuff, so Trump's illegal sales to SA, record cabinet corruption and ethical scandals, increased drone strikes with even less oversight, wholesale environmental and consumer protections stripped alongside financial bailouts and deregulation.

You got vague talk about FISA abuses, the "he targeted teh gop!!" and perhaps Benghazi. Cool.
 
Jesus Christ Philomena, can you operate without hyperbole? Which poor US citizen had their life destroyed? The guy who forgot to register as a foreign agent? <JagsKiddingMe>
The things that the executive branch could do (and the Obama administration did do) with the FISA courts are very broad.

No I was referring to your gripes about the patriot act. They seem to start and stop at any democrat involvement. But Barr himself just tried to expand its scope in direct conflict with constitutional law. It was also approved again, by more republicans than democrats.

So why is that now ok when you just railed on Obama for the same thing?
The Patriot act was never a good thing because it consolidated absolute power among a handful of people. Obama expanded it's capabilities (as previously stated). You were cool with it when Obama was running the show because you trusted his agencies to target the "right people," but you're not going to be cool with it if Republicans maintain that power and use it the way Obama did.
 
The Patriot act was never a good thing because it consolidated absolute power among a handful of people. Obama expanded it's capabilities (as previously stated). You were cool with it when Obama was running the show because you trusted his agencies to target the "right people," but you're not going to be cool with it if Republicans maintain that power and use it the way Obama did.

We've all arrived at a terminus with you, since this basic misunderstanding on your part explains your discourse in it's entirety. In thinking that more left leaning posters note the obvious corrupt nature of Trump, you assumed we all did it in defense of Obama.

What childish stupidity, but obvious from a hack like you.

Here's a pro tip - Normal people are capable of recognizing cases of corruption from the Obama admin while at the same time recognizing the unparalleled corruption in the Trump admin, which yet again, contains an unseen rate of staff resignations, firings or criminal prosecutions due to corruptions, ethics, abuses of power or willful misuses of government funds, among other things.
 
Using taxpayer funds to source emergency medical supplies, then handing them, from the military, to private corporations to auction off, yes, that is corrupt. Good job not seeing the difference between an Kennedy order and what Trump is actually doing here.
I am willing to bet there isn't a shred of real evidence of this, and the whole story will disappear in due time.

And those trillions given to corporations? The President literally said he's the oversight. LOL, you're a clown!!
I know, right? Let's float the "trillions" solely to everyday Americans, so that the corporations go out of business leaving no jobs and no production, and those "trillions" became as valuable as toilet paper.
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You're a clown.

I do laugh at the "Any opposition to daddy, that's the corrupt stuff. RINOS!!!!" stuff, along with the idea that Michael Flynn is some normal citizen who was railroaded. All he did was lie about being a foreign agent when being a National Security advisor, gall!!!!
If only Hillary, Clapper, and Brennan received the same justice. That isn't how Obama era justice works though. You nail the guy to a cross who made false statements about a crime that never actually occurred.

Let me guess, Obama targeted conservatives, and the FISA stuff, so Trump's illegal sales to SA, record cabinet corruption and ethical scandals, increased drone strikes with even less oversight, wholesale environmental and consumer protections stripped alongside financial bailouts and deregulation.

You got vague talk about FISA abuses, the "he targeted teh gop!!" and perhaps Benghazi. Cool.
Yeah, those FISA absues are no big thing. Let's just hope Trump (or other Republicans) never bestow the same treatment on your side of the isle. I would feel pretty bad about that.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Trump just impeached for illegally withholding designated foreign aid in order to have his political opponent investigated? Didn't he have his personal attorney operating illegally as a US ambassador to the Ukraine? Didn't Trump's former National Security Advisor directly state that Trump order Ukraine's aid be withheld on condition of an investigation into Biden?

Lol @ suddenly pretending to care about political targeting of Americans.
 



He retweets a post that says he's going to call for an investigation but then he tells whoever to keep digging. What did Joe Scarborough do to Trump that got him this angry?

This is a major thing to say, no? If you don't believe so or if you feel like this is nothing but TDS, then Trump has done a tremendous job desensitizing you.

It's Trump and he can make extra ordinary allegations and claims with no proof and his followers will take it as truth and gospel.
 
We've all arrived at a terminus with you, since this basic misunderstanding on your part explains your discourse in it's entirety. In thinking that more left leaning posters note the obvious corrupt nature of Trump, you assumed we all did it in defense of Obama.

What childish stupidity, but obvious from a hack like you.

Here's a pro tip - Normal people are capable of recognizing cases of corruption from the Obama admin while at the same time recognizing the unparalleled corruption in the Trump admin, which yet again, contains an unseen rate of staff resignations, firings or criminal prosecutions due to corruptions, ethics, abuses of power or willful misuses of government funds, among other things.
Childish stupidity? What an absurd projection. No surprise there though because that is all you really have anymore.

Do you support prosecution of Clinton, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, Nance, Rice, Strzok, anyone else involved in FISA abuses, and/or Obama himself? I doubt you, or any of the other enlightened "left leaning posters" would ever have or ever would call for such a thing. You are a bottomless pit of horseshit.
 
I am willing to bet there isn't a shred of real evidence of this, and the whole story will disappear in due time.


I know, right? Let's float the "trillions" soley to everyday Americans, so that the corporations go out of business leaving no jobs and no production, and those "trillions" became as valuable as toilet paper.
iu

You're a clown.


If only Hillary, Clapper, and Brennan received the same justice. That isn't how Obama era justice works though. You nail the guy to a cross who made false statements about a crime that never actually occurred.


Yeah, those FISA absues are no big thing. Let's just hope Trump (or other Republicans) never bestow the same treatment on your side of the isle. I would feel pretty bad about that.

The operation of the Airbridge has been explained by admin officials. It's not some secret, what they did. The admin, or Jared Kushner as it were, sourced medical supplies with the military, which were then handed over to corporations to auction off, price gouged as they were.

That's why you have had so many governors speaking of this state of affairs in plain terms. But I'm sure they're all just dem complainers.

Hillary Clinton was investigated by the GOP staffed FBI, and Comey fucked her before the election, and this was after years of Benghazi hearings and the like. Moaning about how the deep state protects itself when your CTs topple is not at all convincing.

Jesus, you can't even spell simple words with your servile bullshit. And in defense of easily the most corrupt cabinet in history. Keep yelling FISA while not at all addressing the myriad corrupt behaviors going on today. All seasoned with the "We have to give the richest more, since it's not like we can give the people who make up the economy money instead of the behaviors that keep digging us deeper!!"
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Childish stupidity? What an absurd projection. No surprise there though because that is all you really have anymore.

Do you support prosecution of Clinton, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, Nance, Rice, Strzok, anyone else involved in FISA abuses, and/or Obama himself? I doubt you, or any of the other enlightened "left leaning posters" would ever have or ever would call for such a thing. You are a bottomless pit of horseshit.

I support prosecution for fraud and corruption. It sucks that Trump and his Iran/Contra monarchist AG don't. It also sucks that you guys keep speaking of Clapper, Comey etc when even Barr isn't doing anything about it, even throwing cold water on the ObamaBidenGate stuff. When even that guy is pulling in the reins? Yeah......
 
The operation of the Airbridge has been explained by admin officials. It's not some secret, what they did. The admin, or Jared Kushner as it were, sourced medical supplies with the military, which were then handed over to corporations to auction off, price gouged as they were.
Guaranteed there is no evidence Trump orchestrated something illegal.

That's why you have had so many governors speaking of this state of affairs in plain terms. But I'm sure they're all just dem complainers.

Hillary Clinton was investigated by the GOP staffed FBI, and Comey fucked her before the election, and this was after years of Benghazi hearings and the like. Moaning about how the deep state protects itself when your CTs topple is not at all convincing.
I wonder if anyone was compromised, and really screwed, by Hillary keeping confirmed top secret e-mails on a private server (knowing full well that some poor low level bastard would be doing time for the same thing)?

Jesus, you can't even spell simple words with your servile bullshit.
Yeah, you know you've hit rock bottom when you have to start targeting typos.

And in defense of easily the most corrupt cabinet in history. Keep yelling FISA while not at all addressing the myriad corrupt behaviors going on today. All seasoned with the "We have to give the richest more, since it's not like we can give the people who make up the economy money instead of the behaviors that keep digging us deeper!!"
Yeah, because all that FISA corruption is small potatoes.

This is fantastic. I have seen this before. You know you've really won the debate when you post an image of two guys dueling colonial style.
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I support prosecution for fraud and corruption. It sucks that Trump and his Iran/Contra monarchist AG don't. It also sucks that you guys keep speaking of Clapper, Comey etc when even Barr isn't doing anything about it, even throwing cold water on the ObamaBidenGate stuff. When even that guy is pulling in the reins? Yeah......
You might be right. I guess we will see what happens.
 
Guaranteed there is no evidence Trump orchestrated something illegal.


I wonder if anyone was compromised, and really screwed, by Hillary keeping confirmed top secret e-mails on a private server (knowing full well that some poor low level bastard would be doing time for the same thing)?


Yeah, you know you've hit rock bottom when you have to start targeting typos.


Yeah, because all that FISA corruption is small potatoes.


This is fantastic. I have seen this before. You know you've really won the debate when you post an image of two guys dueling colonial style.
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Nah, not illegal, just hyper corrupt on a level that wasn't even attempted by the Bush admin.

Still going on about Hillary. Jesus.

You're simply talking about FISA corruption, weighing that against myriad examples on the Trump side, and pressing it as if it's an equivalent. It's nowhere near the level. Hell, Bush couldn't get away with pulling the vast majority of the shit Trump has. But hey, maybe you won't push the "Obama targeted my tea party!!" shit?

I speak of spelling, and I use the Hamilton example because you're acting like you're some studied jurist while arguing for the Obama admin, or any admin, being remotely close to the Trump admin in terms of corruption. Hamilton and Burr, in assessing your sentiment, would disagree over means of humiliation alone.
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The things that the executive branch could do (and the Obama administration did do) with the FISA courts are very broad.

And? You realize Trumps alternative is to destroy that very oversight and go from broad to “whatever I want”. So shouldn’t you hate him even more?

The Patriot act was never a good thing because it consolidated absolute power among a handful of people. Obama expanded it's capabilities (as previously stated). You were cool with it when Obama was running the show because you trusted his agencies to target the "right people," but you're not going to be cool with it if Republicans maintain that power and use it the way Obama did.

So when I ask you if you’re ok with Barr doing it, you just tell me what my feelings are and avoid the topic of Barr/republicans all together? Gonna have to assume you’re a shitposter from here on out. Thanks for the insight.

Guaranteed there is no evidence Trump orchestrated something illegal.

Ok cool, at least you’re ok with announcing you’re a hack. That should help others.
 
Nah, not illegal, just hyper corrupt on a level that wasn't even attempted by the Bush admin.
Corruption usually denotes something illegal.

Still going on about Hillary. Jesus.
I know. What difference at this point does it make?

You're simply talking about FISA corruption, weighing that against myriad examples on the Trump side, and pressing it as if it's an equivalent. It's nowhere near the level. Hell, Bush couldn't get away with pulling the vast majority of the shit Trump has. But hey, maybe you won't push the "Obama targeted my tea party!!" shit?
You admitted above that you believe Trump's actions surrounding contracting distribution to specific companies as "corrupt" but not "illegal." Targeting Americans without a warrant, via the FISA courts, is definitely illegal. So, your math is way off on this one.

I speak of spelling, and I use the Hamilton example because you're acting like you're some studied jurist while arguing for the Obama admin, or any admin, being remotely close to the Trump admin in terms of corruption. Hamilton and Burr, in assessing your sentiment, would disagree over means of humiliation alone.
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Look who's talking.
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And? You realize Trumps alternative is to destroy that very oversight and go from broad to “whatever I want”. So shouldn’t you hate him even more?
Provide evidence that Trump wants to remove a corrupt FISA court and replace with a dictatorial executive power to do "whatever I want."

So when I ask you if you’re ok with Barr doing it, you just tell me what my feelings are and avoid the topic of Barr/republicans all together? Gonna have to assume you’re a shitposter from here on out. Thanks for the insight.
I didn't defend Barr's decision. My biggest complaint was how the FISA court has been weaponized, but I can't defend a bill that doesn't scale back the scope of FISA. I am going to have to assume you're the shit poster from here on out...

Ok cool, at least you’re ok with announcing you’re a hack. That should help others.
You passed on your opportunity to provide some evidence here. That "hack" comment was clearly just a projection.
 
Provide evidence that Trump wants to remove a corrupt FISA court and replace with a dictatorial executive power to do "whatever I want."

Wait you’re saying he doesn’t want to remove corruption? This blows the entire Ukraine narrative out of the water. Are you a leftist trolling?

I didn't defend Barr's decision.

Correct, you completely dodged the topic entirely.

My biggest complaint was how the FISA court has been weaponized, but I can't defend a bill that doesn't scale back the scope of FISA. I am going to have to assume you're the shit poster from here on out...

Listen, I’ve heard the talking points. I get the need to desperately cling to one thing that absolves you have having to recognize anything else. But what you’re seeming to miss, is that I don’t care. Actually provide thoughts on the issue beyond what Trump needs you to believe. Can you show me posts of yours critical of FISA warrants before the issue was raised during the Mueller investigation?

Of course not. Because you’re not driven by principle, but by team spirit.

You passed on your opportunity to provide some evidence here. That "hack" comment was clearly just a projection.

What the hell am I providing evidence for? Things you’ll completely ignore like the topic of Barr? How about this; try to actually demonstrate character and an ability to converse beyond the script you were given.

It’ll make educating you worthwhile.
 
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-11-fi-229-story.html

How about the 3 Trump Casino execs that died in a helicopter crash? They were supposedly going to testify about Trumps money laundering. The same casino where Trumps daddy lost millions on purpose to once again bail out his failure of a son. Then they got on one of Trumps helicopters that happened to crash after word of their testimony got out.
 
Corruption usually denotes something illegal.


I know. What difference at this point does it make?


You admitted above that you believe Trump's actions surrounding contracting distribution to specific companies as "corrupt" but not "illegal." Targeting Americans without a warrant, via the FISA courts, is definitely illegal. So, your math is way off on this one.


Look who's talking.
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At no point have you so much as addressed anything relating to the host of resignations by Trump officials due to illegality or corrupt use of their office. Nothing about the workings of the Air Bridge, which you've been given information on, or any of the myriad examples of Trump corruption. You've got FISA abuses, and that's about it. Great job. I would love to see your outrage if Obama accepted money from foreign dignitaries to stay at his own properties. That's one of the tiniest abuses of power Trump's been perpetrating, and it would sink any other admin.
 
Trump is doing the gilbert godfried joke from the bob sagat roast. Just repeat a crazy claim enough and his fanbase will begin to actually believe it (because theyre idiots).
 
Wait you’re saying he doesn’t want to remove corruption? This blows the entire Ukraine narrative out of the water. Are you a leftist trolling?
This didn't follow logically at all.

Correct, you completely dodged the topic entirely.
Mentioning it was a diversion from the discussion, but I didn't "dodge" that statement at all.

Listen, I’ve heard the talking points. I get the need to desperately cling to one thing that absolves you have having to recognize anything else.
I am glad you are owning it.

But what you’re seeming to miss, is that I don’t care.
No, but I do. Discussions that are carried out here are not solely for your benefit, but if you feel they are unimportant to you personally, you are welcome to not respond to them. :D

Actually provide thoughts on the issue beyond what Trump needs you to believe. Can you show me posts of yours critical of FISA warrants before the issue was raised during the Mueller investigation?
I did. See links in prior posts.

Of course not. Because you’re not driven by principle, but by team spirit.
I appreciate all of your contributions.

What the hell am I providing evidence for? Things you’ll completely ignore like the topic of Barr? How about this; try to actually demonstrate character and an ability to converse beyond the script you were given.
We were not discussing Barr. Barr isn't in charge, and he was not responsible for actions in the Obama administration. It was a diversion from the topic. I didn't ignore it though...

QUOTE="And Erson Ilva, post: 160382402, member: 579025"]It’ll make educating you worthwhile.[/QUOTE]
I have not seen anything that makes you qualified to "educate" anyone.
 
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