Trump Didn't Write the "Art of the Deal" (not a word)-- the guy who did abhors and fears him

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Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All

I was a little surprised to discover that no one had made a thread for this yet. My friend messaged me the link half a week ago, but I was mostly off-the-grid until last night. This was published on July 25th in what is generally regarded as the preeminent high-society cultural magazine in the USA: The New Yorker.

Now this ghostwriter is making the rounds on leftist media such as his recent appearance on the Bill Maher show. It turns out that-- yet again-- Trump is a fraud, and what is generally regarded as his greatest achievement (among those who don't regard his personal $4bn valuation as that) isn't even his. Is anyone surprised at this point?

Understand that this isn't your typical business book ghostwriter. It's fairly typical for personalities who don't have a background in writing to hire someone to help them write their auto-biographies or other books, but the practice of true "ghostwriting" where this person isn't given any credit had gone out of fashion until the rise of reality TV personalities; understandably, this has always been best suited to people like Snooki who want to capitalize on the book market despite that they are themselvse barely literate.

Rather, these people are generally attributed co-authorship, and everyone understands that their primary function is to help the person structure his or her thoughts for better flow and polish of speech. In its best form, IMO, the person writes the rough drafts himself and this other person will do a re-write that functions as an effective editorial reworking of the person's thoughts. Though Tony Schwartz, the man who wrote The Art of the Deal, was given a byline in such a fashion it becomes clear that Trump had virtually nothing to do with the composition of this book that is regarded as an all-time classic in the field of business:
It took Schwartz a little more than a year to write “The Art of the Deal.” In the spring of 1987, he sent the manuscript to Trump, who returned it to him shortly afterward. There were a few red marks made with a fat-tipped Magic Marker, most of which deleted criticisms that Trump had made of powerful individuals he no longer wanted to offend, such as Lee Iacocca. Otherwise, Schwartz says, Trump changed almost nothing.

In my phone interview with Trump, he initially said of Schwartz, “Tony was very good. He was the co-author.” But he dismissed Schwartz’s account of the writing process. “He didn’t write the book,” Trump told me. “I wrote the book. I wrote the book. It was my book. And it was a No. 1 best-seller, and one of the best-selling business books of all time. Some say it was the best-selling business book ever.” (It is not.) Howard Kaminsky, the former Random House head, laughed and said, “Trump didn’t write a postcard for us!”
Perhaps more embarrassingly is Schwartz's confirmation at the most intimate level of what so many psychiatrists have said about his public personality: that there is no "private" Trump, but only the one, and he is indeed a sociopathic narcissist.

This would amount to pure identity politics except that he exposes-- yet again-- the hollow lack of truth to Trump's boasts about how he actually achieved his business success which his father enabled with political connections and occasionally multi-million dollar subsidies or loans. It's yet one more study (in testimony) that exemplifies he's never been the business maestro he claims to be.

But I don't think I could distill Trump's lack of character and dishonesty more acutely than by this fact. The article ends by relating a phone call Trump made to Schwartz upon learning that Schwartz had chosen to go public with this negativity.
Minutes after Trump got off the phone with me, Schwartz’s cell phone rang. “I hear you’re not voting for me,” Trump said. “I just talked to The New Yorker—which, by the way, is a failing magazine that no one reads—and I heard you were critical of me.”

“You’re running for President,” Schwartz said. “I disagree with a lot of what you’re saying.”

“That’s your right, but then you should have just remained silent. I just want to tell you that I think you’re very disloyal. Without me, you wouldn’t be where you are now. I had a lot of choice of who to have write the book, and I chose you, and I was very generous with you. I know that you gave a lot of speeches and lectures using ‘The Art of the Deal.’ I could have sued you, but I didn’t.”
The final lie to ice the cake; in fact, he is suing Schwartz.
 
Yeah I read about this a while back in the daily beast, it seems like there is just so much out there that all sides are literally numb to it. I don't think there is anything a trumper won't spin in to some weird positive and this just more par for the course. This election is going to really be about how much people don't like Hillary.
 
Yeah I read about this a while back in the daily beast, it seems like there is just so much out there that all sides are literally numb to it. I don't think there is anything a trumper won't spin in to some weird positive and this just more par for the course. This election is going to really be about how much people don't like Hillary.

I wouldn't call myself a Trumper, but I really don't like Hilary or the policies of the left.

*Don't like Trumps "plans" either, but hopefully he can at least find people that can run things.
 
Why did it take 30 years for Schwartz to come out about it? Is he getting paid to do a media tour?

I don't disregard that Trump didn't write it or that he liked the first copy -- the timing of it just seems more an attempt to cash in than actual disregard for Trump.
 
I wouldn't call myself a Trumper, but I really don't like Hilary or the policies of the left.

*Don't like Trumps "plans" either, but hopefully he can at least find people that can run things.

He can't find someone to write his wife's speeches or a run a campaign, have zero confidence he can wing the most important job in the world through good delegation. I understand a range of views on Hilary (although I would support her for the SC alone) but think trump is literally the worst candidate modem America has ever seen.
 
I read this a few days ago and it was surprising.

Trump gets a lot of bad press, which is to be expected, but his ghostwriter seems to feel Trump is an actual shitshow of a human being. A lying, self-aggrandizing blowhard who isn't half as brilliant as he thinks he is but is too self-absorbed to realize it or care.

That any political party, let alone mine, is taking him seriously is a sign that this country has some real deep issues that need to be addressed by whomever ends up President.
 
Is there any proof he actually wrote this? Or is this like how I actually ghostwrote American Pastoral but that son of a bitch Philip Roth got all the praise for it?
 
He can't find someone to write his wife's speeches or a run a campaign, have zero confidence he can wing the most important job in the world through good delegation. I understand a range of views on Hilary (although I would support her for the SC alone) but think trump is literally the worst candidate modem America has ever seen.
It be nice if we had a reasonable conservative in office. The left's propaganda is really irritating, but you are probably right about Trump.

That said, will not vote for Hilary. Since the end of WW2, this whole foreign aid and government spending has truly gotten ridiculous. We've become the commies we feared.
 
But Schwartz believes that Trump’s short attention span has left him with “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.” He said, “That’s why he so prefers TV as his first news source—information comes in easily digestible sound bites.” He added, “I seriously doubt that Trump has ever read a book straight through in his adult life.” During the eighteen months that he observed Trump, Schwartz said, he never saw a book on Trump’s desk, or elsewhere in his office, or in his apartment.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

lol
 
New Yorker is great. Jane Mayer is fantastic.

She just wrote about it.

edit Mick already linked it. Thought he posted another.
 
And still resulting in the election of anyone but the other person.

America still world the leader in entertainment!
 
And yet conservatives want this guy to lead our country.

Yesterday was the first time ted Cruz ever did something I respected
 
If people enjoyed her writing on this, I'd strongly recommend reading Dark Money. Great piece of investigative journalism that just came out from her.
And yet conservatives want this guy to lead our country.

Yesterday was the first time ted Cruz ever did something I respected

Yeah, not kissing the ring. Good for him. Sniveling little shit he is, at least he has more dignity than Christie.
 
Glad somebody made a thread about this. I heard him on NPR today describing Trump as having no attention span. He said he feared a Trump presidency because of his lack of interest in anything of substance.

He noted that he's been able to say what he wants because he worked with Trump before Trump figured out how to keep people silenced under draconian NDAs.
 
Is there any proof he actually wrote this? Or is this like how I actually ghostwrote American Pastoral but that son of a bitch Philip Roth got all the praise for it?

He is credited in the book
 
Why did it take 30 years for Schwartz to come out about it? Is he getting paid to do a media tour?

I don't disregard that Trump didn't write it or that he liked the first copy -- the timing of it just seems more an attempt to cash in than actual disregard for Trump.
Maybe read the article before sounding off, Judo. He is no longer a journalist, or a writer, and precisely because he is coming out with this he has now committed all future royalties from the book (he gets half) to charities devoted to people and causes Trump has rhetorically promised to marginalize in this campaign.
Is there any proof he actually wrote this? Or is this like how I actually ghostwrote American Pastoral but that son of a bitch Philip Roth got all the praise for it?
Yes, the publishers themselves were privy to the truth. Again, maybe read the article, guys.
 
Trump has a profound ability to talk without saying anything.

It can work for his speeches I guess. With his supporters. 50 "tremendous" and "frankly" and "fantastic" and then updates on his polling. Then "our leaders are stupid. We need to win. We don't win anymore."

But it's not going to write a book. He doesn't have that in him. He's not exactly an intellectual.
 
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