Elections Trump Approval Rating Hits All-Time High in New Gallup Poll

[JoshTehV]

Well during the civil war lincoln imprisoned everyone who disagreed with him which essentially all his political opponents and did so through a plethora of executive orders. Trumps over here giving everyone and their momma money, people I know who owe thousands in unemployment and or unpaid income tax still got a stimulus check. I know a guy whose worked under the table his entire life and he got a stimulus check.

 

[Falsedawn]

Well during the civil war lincoln imprisoned everyone who disagreed with him which essentially all his political opponents and did so through a plethora of executive orders. Trumps over here giving everyone and their momma money, people I know who owe thousands in unemployment and or unpaid income tax still got a stimulus check. I know a guy whose worked under the table his entire life and he got a stimulus check.

You're talking about the Confederates in Union controlled areas...right? You think those were unjust arrests?

And you are aware that FDR existed right? Do you think socialism means just giving people money? Especially after Trump spent the majority of his first term giving sweetheart deals to his corporate buddies during a time of good economic status? It's more shitty Reaganomics, are you telling me Reagan was a socialist?

 

[skysolo]

I wonder if Trump's supporters really listen to what he says about policies.

He is proposing cutting taxes on the wealthy in order to give federal money to states. Before he gives you your money, he wants to make sure his friends save money first.

 

[skysolo]

How does Tony Schiavon-tay look better now than he did 20 years ago?

 

[Falsedawn]

How does Tony Schiavon-tay look better now than he did 20 years ago?

It's the beard

 

[JoshTehV]

You're talking about the Confederates in Union controlled areas...right? You think those were unjust arrests?

And you are aware that FDR existed right? Do you think socialism means just giving people money? Especially after Trump spent the majority of his first term giving sweetheart deals to his corporate buddies during a time of good economic status? It's more shitty Reaganomics, are you telling me Reagan was a socialist

You're talking about the Confederates in Union controlled areas...right? You think those were unjust arrests?

And you are aware that FDR existed right? Do you think socialism means just giving people money? Especially after Trump spent the majority of his first term giving sweetheart deals to his corporate buddies during a time of good economic status? It's more shitty Reaganomics, are you telling me Reagan was a socialist?

maybe the word I was looking for was progressive

 

[JoshTehV]

You're talking about the Confederates in Union controlled areas...right? You think those were unjust arrests?

And you are aware that FDR existed right? Do you think socialism means just giving people money? Especially after Trump spent the majority of his first term giving sweetheart deals to his corporate buddies during a time of good economic status? It's more shitty Reaganomics, are you telling me Reagan was a socialist?

"The godfather of despotism": the charge has haunted Abraham Lincoln
from the advent of the Civil War to the wake of his bicentennial. 1 From
partisans during the war to early twentieth century historians to post-World War
II political scientists fearing an "imperial presidency" to the latest libertarian
Lincoln-hater, Lincoln has been vilified as someone who destroyed the
Constitution in order to save the Union. The bill of particulars is lengthy and
grave: he suspended habeas corpus and jailed opponents, flouted a court order by
the Chief Justice of the United States, ordered troops raised and materiel
purchased, blockaded Southern ports, emancipated slaves after denying the
power to do so-all without prior Congressional authorization. Professor
Clinton Rossiter of Columbia put the case starkly in 1948: "dictatorship played a
decisive role in the North's successful effort to maintain the Union by force of
arms .... Lincoln's amazing disregard for the words of the Constitution was
considered by nobody as legal." (Hutchinson, 2010)

https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2531&context=journal_articles

Got any peer review articles to back up your claim?

 

[Falsedawn]

"The godfather of despotism": the charge has haunted Abraham Lincoln
from the advent of the Civil War to the wake of his bicentennial. 1 From
partisans during the war to early twentieth century historians to post-World War
II political scientists fearing an "imperial presidency" to the latest libertarian
Lincoln-hater, Lincoln has been vilified as someone who destroyed the
Constitution in order to save the Union. The bill of particulars is lengthy and
grave: he suspended habeas corpus and jailed opponents, flouted a court order by
the Chief Justice of the United States, ordered troops raised and materiel
purchased, blockaded Southern ports, emancipated slaves after denying the
power to do so-all without prior Congressional authorization. Professor
Clinton Rossiter of Columbia put the case starkly in 1948: "dictatorship played a
decisive role in the North's successful effort to maintain the Union by force of
arms .... Lincoln's amazing disregard for the words of the Constitution was
considered by nobody as legal." (Hutchinson, 2010)

https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2531&context=journal_articles

Got any peer review articles to back up your claim?

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2...-and-arbitrary-arrests?rgn=main;view=fulltext

It should be remembered too that many of the arrests involved allegations, not of victimless crimes like holding the wrong political ideas, but of serious ones like murdering pickets, bushwhacking, burning bridges, and raising money and men for the Confederate Army. This was especially the case in Missouri, Virginia, and Kentucky (always) and Maryland (at times of invasions of the North). The likelihood, of course, is that the percentage of serious crimes rose after 1862 as the Union conquered more and more Southern territory, just as it is likely that the percentage of the civilians arrested who were Confederate citizens and not possible voters for or against Lincoln rose.

In other words, the population of persons arrested got guiltier and guiltier (of being genuinely disloyal) as the war progressed. Even under Seward, a substantial portion of those arrested were guilty and were later indicted and convicted or confessed or (admittedly, the largest category here) asked to be exchanged and/or were exchanged. The Lincoln administration took the view that anyone willing to be exchanged for a Northerner in Confederate hands was guilty. This sort of follow-up information on the arrests is extremely difficult to come by, but a minimum of 2.9 percent (18) of the persons arrested were guilty by the above criteria. Add to these the blockade runners and honorable sailors (minus the English sailors who were duped into blockade running under the ruse of engaging for the West Indies trade [19] and other confused foreigners), and it could well be argued that at least 19 percent (117) of the 612 arrests netted guilty persons.

Thus the primitive state apparatus of Lincoln's day turned in a fabulously successful and efficient internal security system. Even the 2.9 percent success record beats that of the twentieth-century security apparatus of Woodrow Wilson's progressive state. Despite arrests during World War I of 6,300 enemy aliens (2,300 interned), 2,168 trials under the Espionage and Sedition Acts, and 40,000 men detained by the American Protective League's notorious "slacker raids," not one bona fide spy or saboteur was convicted by the Wilson administration. Franklin D. Roosevelt removed 120,000 Japanese-Americans from the West Coast inPage [End Page 18]World War II, but there was not one single act of espionage, sabotage, or fifth-column activity by any Japanese-American on the West Coast in World War II. [20] Of course, I am comparing arrests of guilty persons with conviction in the World War I case, but given the disparity in size and nature of government apparatus between Lincoln's era and the Progressive Era, perhaps it is fair to grant some latitude to the primitive state of Lincoln's era.

One need only think of the famous spies who were in the Lincoln administration's hands at one time or another to be impressed with the efficiency of their internal security: Rose O'Neal Greenhow, the Washington socialite who gave McDowell's plans for the first Bull Run campaign to Beauregard (arrested on August 23, 1861, "arbitrarily"), for example, or Thomas A. Jones, the head of the Confederate "mail" system in southern Maryland and later the man who helped John Wilkes Booth escape to Virginia (arrested on October 4, 1861, "arbitrarily" and eventually released over the loud protest of military authorities). [21]

Arbitrary arrests, except for rare celebrity cases like that of Clement Vallandigham, remained throughout the Civil War a local problem (confined at first to the war-torn Border States and then more and more to the Confederate States themselves) or a remote problem (involving foreigners and persons on the high seas, where loyalty is always murky). Calling them arbitrary arrests "in the North" is almost a misnomer. Very few took place out-side the conquered Confederacy, the controverted Border, or the ocean. Proof of this lies in three reports issued in 1863.

A Select Committee on Military Arrests in the House of the Ohio General Assembly found only eleven citizens of some 2,340,000 had been deprived of their liberty by military arrest.[24] This was a Republican committee which may well have lacked investigative zeal, but a Democratic Committee on Arbitrary Arrests in the Indiana House was able to find only 43 civilians arrested (of about 1,350,000) from the beginning of the war until January 1863. Over one-third of them (15) were arrested as a result of a riot in Hartford City which resulted in the destruction of the box from which the provost marshall was preparing to draw the first name for the draft. There was no reign of terror even in Lambdin P. Milligan's home state: one of the 43 was released because there was no seal on the affidavit accusing him of a crime; legal technicalities still mattered.[25]

Finally, when the Habeas Corpus Act of March 3, 1863, required the War Department to supply lists of political prisoners to the U.S. Circuit and District Courts, Stanton delegated the task to Holt, who — late and reluctantly — submitted 170 names to the judges. These were supposed to be all the civilian prisoners in ten Federal prisons, but Holt grumbled that the Act had been carelessly written, and he excluded all persons arrested as "guerrillas" or "bushwhackers" or "as being with or aiding these" as well as those who came under the 57th Article of War. The fact of the matter is that most such crimes could occur only in Missouri (Holt singled out the St. Louis and Alton prisons as being especially full of the sorts of prisoners excluded) or the Confederacy, so that the list was biased Northward. Even so, 90 percent of the persons on the list were residents of slave states, 37.4 percent of them Missourians, 26.3 percent Virginians, and 22.8 percent from Maryland or Kentucky. There were five New Yorkers, three Pennsylvanians, one man from Ohio, and one from Maine. [26]

 

[rearnakedchoke]

49 is his high? Dude is the worst. He is tweeting about this? No way he wins 2020.

 

[evansusmc2]

Atleast I have standards.

Yeah, just about the lowest on this forum.

 

[kenetics]

Yeah, just about the lowest on this forum.

But you have none. So I'll take it lol.

 

[evansusmc2]

But you have none. So I'll take it lol.

Again... as long as comments like that are only coming from you than I got no reason to take it seriously. So you can "lol" and "lol" to "lol" outta here.

 

[kenetics]

Again... as long as comments like that are only coming from you than I got no reason to take it seriously. So you can "lol" and "lol" to "lol" outta here.

I still love ya.

 

[Philo-Publius]

“Most of the variation in Trump’s recent job approval rating is among independents,” Gallup said. “In the current poll, 47% of independents approve of the job he is doing as president, the highest Gallup has measured for the group to date. 93% of Republicans and 8% of Democrats approve of the job Trump is doing.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-approval-rating-hits-all-time-high-in-new-gallup-poll/

Better luck in 2024, Dems lol.

The numbers are always better for him than you think.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dems tried to put a wrench in the election with something. Maybe by trumping up reports of COVID-19 spread or something, but they have really shot themselves in the foot with so much of their garbage propaganda. What a disgrace.