Trump announces 8,000 more jobs

Jesus, I never seen people this mad at jobs coming to the US before. Goddamn, you guys are salty
 
Look, I'm not saying socialism is a bad thing. We made it a bad word, but it's not a bad thing. We've been a socialist democracy for most of modern history people just don't want to admit it and there are no clearer indicators to American growth overtime than our implementation of massive social welfare institutions.
that's too much to discuss here and in the context of this tweet, however, this:
It's just really annoying to see people talk shit about socialism for years, if not decades, using it as some kind of slur, suddenly have a change of tune because it's their guy putting it into play and being completely oblivious to it.
can obviously be seen on both sides.
People who are heavily in favor of governments interfering with the results of (more or less) free markets as long as they think the results will fit their personal idea of fairness or benefit suddenly talk as if they always were hardcore capitalists and libertarians.
People who call themselves conservative praise Trump for individual tax breaks based on deals with single companies.
Not only (but also) here but in general.
 
Bro, I don't give a fuck about 8000 jobs.

It's nothing.

13 million jobs were created under Obama. Why doesn't anyone want to talk about that ever?

Credit where credit is due but most jobs under Obama were low paying or part jobs.
I don't think Trump can do much better but that's the reason.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ts-94-all-new-jobs-under-obama-were-part-time

It's a "fake news" website but you can check the study sources.

Of course the other guy comparing it to Reagan is also dishonest because he is comparing percentage of people in the workforce, and nowadays the percentage is lower because of retiring baby boomers too.
 
Not really, I got all of this information from the web. It's out there if people are willing to look. The thing is some of it isn't going to get clarified because we're never going to know what the original plan was that led to the $100 billion fund. But my experience tells me that you don't put together a fund like that and then randomly switch investment targets because the President of the U.S. changed. Any group that sophisticated knows not to overreact to an election.

We will see. These stories so far have been about trump using a carrot to secure promises of jobs.

With just this known, you could totally be right.

However, once Trump is sworn into office he will also have a stick available. If trump uses the stick I believe this will show your narrative to be wrong, as it will become industrial policy at that point.
 
Credit where credit is due but most jobs under Obama were low paying or part jobs.
I don't think Trump can do much better but that's the reason.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ts-94-all-new-jobs-under-obama-were-part-time

It's a "fake news" website but you can check the study sources.

Of course the other guy comparing it to Reagan is also dishonest because he is comparing percentage of people in the workforce, and nowadays the percentage is lower because of retiring baby boomers too.

It's not the President's job to monitor the quality of jobs private businesses are creating and micromanage them to be better. It's just his job to create an environment in which they are created.

I really think it's time that people stop looking to the White House for better work conditions and start looking at their employers.
 
Of course the other guy comparing it to Reagan is also dishonest because he is comparing percentage of people in the workforce, and nowadays the percentage is lower because of retiring baby boomers too.

It wasn't really meant as a comparison to Reagan, it was simply the first chart I found for what I wanted to say and they put Reagan up there. But if we talk about how amazing Obama did with jobs, you have to put it into perspective. It's important to also mention what kind of jobs were created and to compare it to population growth because those parameters partly define the reality of the job market. Neither those facts nor my post explicitly implied wrongdoing on Obama's part. And the comparison is at least legit if somebody says 'Obama created more jobs than anybody since...', what didn't happen here but still...
 
We will see. These stories so far have been about trump using a carrot to secure promises of jobs.

With just this known, you could totally be right.

However, once Trump is sworn into office he will also have a stick available. If trump uses the stick I believe this will show your narrative to be wrong, as it will become industrial policy at that point.

He won't have a stick. He still has to work through Congress. Carrier was a state level change, even though Trump took credit as if it was federal. This is obviously the result of long term planning (since you don't put together a $100 billion fund between a country and foreign company in a matter of weeks or even months.

People overstate his ability to directly impact company by company decision making. It's why these stories of individual company decisions are almost guaranteed to be a vast overstatement of what he actually accomplished and more spin than anything else.

Just for comparison sake - every time a company invests in the U.S. or creates new jobs, we don't get a media blitz. Yet we've added millions of jobs over the last however many years. It happens without some President claiming he directly influenced that outcome. Instead we get concerns about lobbying and corporate handouts, what did we trade the company for this outcome.

That Trump is implying that he is implicitly responsible for these outcomes suggests that they're spinning normal economic events way out of line with reality. It's like a mayor claiming that he's personally responsible every time some dude opens a coffee shop and hires a barista.
 
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How about everyone just start their own bank and start loaning themselves money? Then they can just create their own jobs for friends and family. And when they become insolvent the Fed, Treasury or whoever can bail everyone out.
 
Facts still matter.

I'm not rooting against my country. I'm holding Trump's feet to the fire when he makes a claim and it turns out to be bullshit.

You can't micro manage the entire US economy nor should you.

Guaranteeing individuals companies massive tax breaks in return for keeping a pittance of jobs here is a stupid fucking strategy. We lose money this way.

Trump does it for the good PR and that's it.
agree, and yet sometimes, good PR is what is needed to get confidence going.

like it or not, a big part of the president's job is PR and cheerleading.
 
Not even president and already creating jobs. God bless you Donald Trump.
 
"I invented fire and died for your sins"

- Donald "Demagogue" Trump

I enjoy the way he tries to paint setting his business empire aside for four years to become the Leader of the Free World as a huge, personal sacrifice made on behalf of we the people.

Reminds me of the time he was asked, after having insulted the Muslim Gold Star family, if he had ever made what he considered a large sacrifice for America.

Trump pointed to his business success and how hard he had had to work to achieve it.

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The DSM-5 chart doesn't even go high enough to measure the magnitude of this turd's Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
 
Facts still matter.

I'm not rooting against my country. I'm holding Trump's feet to the fire when he makes a claim and it turns out to be bullshit.

You can't micro manage the entire US economy nor should you.

Guaranteeing individuals companies massive tax breaks in return for keeping a pittance of jobs here is a stupid fucking strategy. We lose money this way.

Trump does it for the good PR and that's it.
What was Distillery's policy on job creation?
 
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