Crime Trump Administration Sent Legal Immigrant to Prison in El Salvador

[Mr Holmes]

A 2nd bet?



When did I make the 1st?

EDIT: Oh wait do you mean the Justin Mohn bet? I thought you meant on this specific subject

 

[Siver!]

What terms do you propose for this one?

It's tough, because I'd be more than happy to bet on Trump trying for this in a serious capacity - but I don't yet know if I should bet against American democracy.

It seems a bit too close for comfort. They might, but they absolutely shouldn't.

 

[Kassitus]

I'm sure some people would prefer it if we just sleepwalked into an era where we just don't have time for due process anymore.

But that is literally the realm of nightmarish autocratic shitholes.

I didn't have America pushing for that on my 21st Century Bingo Card.

Spengler did, in 1918.

 

[Mr Holmes]

What terms do you propose for this one?

It's tough, because I'd be more than happy to bet on Trump trying for this in a serious capacity - but I don't yet know if I should bet against American democracy.

It seems a bit too close for comfort. They might, but they absolutely shouldn't.

I would say no US citizen would ever step foot into an El Salvadorian prison as an inmate.

 

[BFoe]

I would say no US citizen would ever step foot into an El Salvadorian prison as an inmate.

Do you think Trump will attempt it though? The expulsion of a legal citizen?

 

[Siver!]

I would say no US citizen would ever step foot into an El Salvadorian prison as an inmate.

Tempting...

I'm assuming "US citizen" does not include, say, a Permanent Resident (someone who holds a Green Card)?

 

[joy2day]

Donald Trump says the US could deport 'homegrown criminals' to El Salvador jail

The Trump administration has sent hundreds of alleged Venezuelan gang members to a notorious facility in El Salvador, since March, but the president has now suggested that "homegrown criminals" could also be sent there.

news.sky.com

The question for right wing America is, do you respect the rule of law, or do you just think it's a bit annoying and Trump should be able to do whatever he likes?

Unfortunately, there is a third option- rationalize everything Trump does regardless of how irrational it truly is. Independents who voted for him are feeling the regret in many cases, but MAGA will NEVER criticize him no matter what he does.

Modern America has never had idolatry on a mass scale around a president; Trump is truly the first cult of personality. He is literally a messenger from God to them (that's been explicitly voiced everywhere from MAGA rallies to Fox News); critical thinking in regard to Trump is not something they are capable of.

People on the left will be all over the place on Biden or Obama- they will argue with some policies or actions and agree with others; MAGA does not do this though. If you notice here and other places, they absolutely worship every move Trump makes and will argue to the end that he is right no matter what.

The scary thing is that he is an authoritarian and undoubtedly will try to stay in power, and these pathetic suckers will continue rationalizing his moves all the way. The next presidential election will be a scary time for America.

 

[Siver!]

Unfortunately, there is a third option- rationalize everything Trump does regardless of how irrational it truly is. Independents who voted for him are feeling the regret in many cases, but MAGA will NEVER criticize him no matter what he does.

Modern America has never had idolatry on a mass scale around a president; Trump is truly the first cult of personality. He is literally a messenger from God to them (that's been explicitly voiced everywhere from MAGA rallies to Fox News); critical thinking in regard to Trump is not something they are capable of.

People on the left will be all over the place on Biden or Obama- they will argue with some policies or actions and agree with others; MAGA does not do this though. If you notice here and other places, they absolutely worship every move Trump makes and will argue to the end that he is right no matter what.

The scary thing is that he is an authoritarian and undoubtedly will try to stay in power, and these pathetic suckers will continue rationalizing his moves all the way. The next presidential election will be a scary time for America.

I do see that, and it is frightening.

Honestly, I'm glad I live in the UK where the right has just booted out Prime Minister after Prime Minister because while that's obviously not ideal in any way, it does show there's a limit to the amount of bullshit they'll put up with.

I don't know where the breaking point is for Trump fans. I really don't.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

what part of the ruling is king trump ignoring?

 

[DoctorTaco]

It's a scam, and its not freedom. It's just a legal means to imprison or remove people under a mere presumption (of which "innocent" is supposed to be the default presumption), and without having to give them their day in Court with competent representation.

The next step will be adding “terrorists” to the list of people it is OK to throw in a Gulag. From there, you just start labeling protesters as terrorists and voila!

 

[Siver!]

The next step will be adding “terrorists” to the list of people it is OK to throw in a Gulag. From there, you just start labeling protesters as terrorists and voila!

Yep.

This is what it hinges on.

If burning a Tesla becomes "terrorism", and the base already want that to happen from what I'm reading on here, the floodgates will open.

 

[Scerpi]

Tempting...

I'm assuming "US citizen" does not include, say, a Permanent Resident (someone who holds a Green Card)?

Most Green Cards are good for 10 years and can be revolked for criminal behavior like being a gang member

Sooo…

 

[LeonardoBjj]

I do see that, and it is frightening.

Honestly, I'm glad I live in the UK where the right has just booted out Prime Minister after Prime Minister because while that's obviously not ideal in any way, it does show there's a limit to the amount of bullshit they'll put up with.

I don't know where the breaking point is for Trump fans. I really don't.

- I think they dont have one

 

[heloder]

Unfortunately, there is a third option- rationalize everything Trump does regardless of how irrational it truly is. Independents who voted for him are feeling the regret in many cases, but MAGA will NEVER criticize him no matter what he does.

Modern America has never had idolatry on a mass scale around a president; Trump is truly the first cult of personality. He is literally a messenger from God to them (that's been explicitly voiced everywhere from MAGA rallies to Fox News); critical thinking in regard to Trump is not something they are capable of.

People on the left will be all over the place on Biden or Obama- they will argue with some policies or actions and agree with others; MAGA does not do this though. If you notice here and other places, they absolutely worship every move Trump makes and will argue to the end that he is right no matter what.

The scary thing is that he is an authoritarian and undoubtedly will try to stay in power, and these pathetic suckers will continue rationalizing his moves all the way. The next presidential election will be a scary time for America.

Great post.

My best friend voted for Trump, and after the election—when discussing the price of groceries—told me "Well that will be getting better soon...". Yesterday, when discussing the price of groceries, she told me "Well we need to go through difficult times. Things have been too good for too long."

It's been said a million times, and it needs to be said a million more. This is a cult. There is no reason beyond Trump. When Trump speaks, it is Truth. When his detractors speak, it is Lies. Those two sentences are the only things that matter anymore.

It is a fascinating, and terrifying place we are in. Donald Trump is the epitome of the worst America has to offer. He is the toxic byproduct of Capitalism. He is the other side of the coin, opposite George Washington and FDR. He is America's dictator. He is America's cult leader. He has control over millions of people. These people will abandon their faith. They will abandon their beliefs. They will abandon their morality. They will do this to feed Donald Trump's ego, which they have tied to their own.

 

[Andy Capp]

fuck off lol, I am not a Trump supporter, I just don't feel sorry for rapists and murderers but I should if I was properly informed ? are you posting from a cuck chair ? I don't exaggerate and twist the truth constantly because I have a hate boner for Trump or any other leader.

I will admit I was not informed as I should on this.

LOL go fuck yourself with a sharp stick, you stupid hypocrite. What did you call me earlier? A mouth-breather? Then you come into threads spouting a bunch of uniformed bullshit only to follow it with, "I was not as informed as I should be."

LMAO you silly cow.

 

[44nutman]

Most Green Cards are good for 10 years and can be revolked for criminal behavior like being a gang member

Sooo…

Except there is no proof in this case he was a gang member other than a prison informant the police said was full of shit.
Still going with the gang member angle when nobody can prove it. Bagdad Barbie said at the press conference when it happened the administration had proof, he was a gang member, and we are all still waiting for said proof. The proof must be next to the Epstein files lost on someone's desk.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Yep.

This is what it hinges on.

If burning a Tesla becomes "terrorism", and the base already want that to happen from what I'm reading on here, the floodgates will open.

1. Label antifa a terrorist organization.
2. Detain antifa members who are legally, lawfully protesting.

 

[Mr Holmes]

Tempting...

I'm assuming "US citizen" does not include, say, a Permanent Resident (someone who holds a Green Card)?

Correct

 

[Siver!]

Correct

There's definitely a potentiality here.

Stripping foreign-born citizens of citizenship and deporting them.

What's the forfeit? I'm assuming the deadline is 2028?

 

[Mr Holmes]

There's definitely a potentiality here.

Stripping foreign-born citizens of citizenship and deporting them.

What's the forfeit? I'm assuming the deadline is 2028?

I suppose 2028 or if he dies or something.