Triangle set-ups and baits

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  1. Theclasher

    Theclasher Yellow Belt

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    What are your favorites/ones you find to be most effective? I have learned when i can isolate an arm during scrambles and people don't expect it, but from full guard I'm having trouble.
     
  2. Wrestleben

    Wrestleben Brown Belt

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    My favorite is to do it from full mount. People are so worried about chokes/armbars that it is very easy to slip in the leg and catch them with a triangle.

    From full guard its harder to be tricky. I go for armbars/omaplatas and transition to triangle.
     
  3. ijustwannasurf

    ijustwannasurf Brown Belt

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    I too am a major fan of the mounted triangle. Very sneaky.
    From guard I'm very methodical- control head and arm, open then close up a high guard for control, cross their arm, pull my shin, build the angle
     
  4. Mikey Triangles

    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    i use a lot of different set-ups from closed guard.


    perhaps the simplist one (and probably one of the best) is just to throw your legs up and trap one of his shoulders in your guard. kind of like your going for a sloppy armbar. then you simply pull them down withg your legs and start to lock it up.keep it tight enough so they can't really push back in without giftwrapping the armbar, so their only option is to try and pull out, which is exactly what you want.

    it sounds suspect, but it's really a great set-up.



    a lot of the other set-ups i use take a lot of timing and/or speed, but that one anyone can pull off.
     
  5. green_machine

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    In my closed guard, I like to sit up and try a sloppy guillotine then fall back with it. When they bring their hand up on that side to pull your hand away from their throat, throw that leg around their arm and up onto their neck for the triangle position.
     
  6. Mikey Triangles

    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    good post. traditional guillotines may be easy to defend, but they are definitely one of the best ways to set-up a triangle from any position.
     
  7. Art Vandelay

    Art Vandelay Latex Salesman

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    Scissor sweep fake with the belly-cutting shin trapping the arm, allowing you to kick-clear and take the triangle. Deep cross side collar grip and or overhook on triangle'd arm help.
     
  8. mowrown

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    Break the guy's posture, pull down at the back of his head from the bottom in guard. He'll brace at least one hand to regain posture. If he puts the hand on the mat, take the kimura. If he puts the hand on you, use that as the lead arm for the triangle.
     
  9. El Ninja

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    Big Nog style :D

    Controlling one wrist from the guard. Then quickly open your guard while pulling his arm back and your leg up/over his shoulder at the same time.
     
  10. salboski

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    This is a great thread. Keep em coming guys. I really suck at getting triangles becuase I can't set them up properly.
     
  11. gracie_barra**

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    never underestimate the power of the overhook.
     
  12. Cyclone Mike

    Cyclone Mike Amateur Fighter

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    shrug, im a 6 month nub but whenever i get the chance i just throw my legs up kinda like mikey triangles said and just work it from there.

    this works a lot more than when i actually try to set it up like i would an armbar, but then i might just suck at setting stuff up
     
  13. codemonkey76

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    i do it braulio estima style, deep collar grip threaten collar chokes and then they defend i try the armbar and if they pull their elbow in shoot the hips up and lock the triangle or collar choke with the legs (deep collar grip with the legs triangled the opposite way of a regular triangle)
     
  14. Heavy Bag

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    My two favorites are double wrist control, hipping to one side to shed/pass one arm with your knee across their arm/chest then hipping the other way to finish the triangle.

    The other is from rubber guard, lock up 'mission control' as bravo calls it, then reach over your leg on their neck with your other arm gripping their gi or lat. Once there, use your free elbow to pass the arm and get your leg over for the triangle. If they try to shove their arm through, you have an easy arm bar, if they don't, finish the triangle.
     
  15. Heavy Bag

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    I try to use a variation of this as well. I like to do it from the whizzer with a deep collar grip. It really allows you to present a lot of danger and keep their posture broken down enough to pass their free arm through for the triangle.
     
  16. ozyabbas

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    1.Definantely from spider guard.
    2.Transition from failed armbar to triangle as they come up.
    3.Underhook the arm and grab the opposite collar from guard. Move your hips out in the direction of the arm that you have caught as if you are going for an armbar. Then push out their other hand and get the leg over a triangle.
    4)can set up a reverse triangle (not sure whats its proper name is) during your set up for the chickenwing.
    5)Its possible from when you take their back or from when you are attacking the turtle.

    This list is endless.
     
  17. Shaldag

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    i like to go for a sweep like the pendulum sweep and if my opponent can break his arm out of my grip he will usually post it on the mat to stop the sweep thats when i pummel my leg inside that arm for the triangle.
    The push-pull setup works occasionally.
    Often times when someone rips their arm out of an armbar from the guard you can switch to the triangle.
    and often when people clasp their hands to defend the armbar i pummel the leg in for a triangle.
    I also really like setting triangles from the John Danaher clamp.
     
  18. SH5

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    From the back ..
    opponent in turtle

    harness slip in the far hook .. put my othe rfoot right out in front of the shoulder like I am using it for my balance .. people will grab is 75% of the time .. Kick the leg back to my underhook hand . .. Straighten that arm as I roll and under hook the other arm ( breaks the posture and sets up my angle and prevents them from slipping out the back door untitl I lock it up ) when they fall over my foot is sticking straight up in teh air .. and I push off the hip and hook the triangle up.
     
  19. Gabicho

    Gabicho Brown Belt

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    I mostly use the triangle from mount. Sneak the leg in, and when they try to make me lose mount, i close it.

    From my back i usually can only make triangles after a failed/fainted armbar.
     
  20. J Storm**

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    i think u mean FEINTED armbar, unless it's so scary it makes them pass out (sorry i was an english major :D)
     

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