training gi and competing no-gi?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by sarge, Nov 29, 2005.

  1. sarge

    sarge White Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    0
    hey guys, my bjj club trains in the gi 100% of the time. I like training in it, but I really have no desire to compete in the gi. My question is, how hard of a time will I have competing no-gi with all gi training? I try not to use the gi while rolling in class, I never go for lapel chokes and I try not to hold on to it for anything. Thanks for any opinions/advice.
     
  2. infamous mattyd

    infamous mattyd Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2004
    Messages:
    4,583
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Dirty Jersey
    why not train at a no gi school?
     
  3. Smash your face in

    Smash your face in Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2005
    Messages:
    2,363
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    U.K.

    Thread answered.
     
  4. DirectDrive

    DirectDrive Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2003
    Messages:
    6,544
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    outskirts of life
    this has been cover a lot but pretty much all of the top gi guys say that they find it very easy to do no-go. the idea is you can get very sloppy with no-gi because you are used to being slippery. there is something to that..... if you can get out of a triangle or armbar with a gi you can probably get out pretty easily without a gi.
    also, there are a lot less subs with no-gi so they are having to think about defending less. you have to worry about RNC, triangle, arm triangle, armbar kimura/americana and darce (i know there are a lot more no-gi subs but these are the meat and potatos). there are a lot less sweeps too.
     
  5. Soid

    Soid Renegade of Funk

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2004
    Messages:
    5,899
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Nueva York
    Hmm.. Marcelo Garcia in 2003 didn't train nogi for ADCC because he was told to do the tourny the day before because someone dropped out. Roger Gracie I heard only trained nogi a few weeks before ADCC.
     
  6. Soulfly

    Soulfly Guest

    How about going to a nearby school that does No Gi grappling when they have open mat?
     
  7. sarge

    sarge White Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    0
    The only no gi school around here is taught by a traditional ju jitsu guy. I have trained there a couple of times and didn't care for it. The bjj guys are far more technical/advanced.
     
  8. ClubberLange

    ClubberLange Green Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2002
    Messages:
    1,437
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    what's a darce?
     
  9. Cornsloth

    Cornsloth Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2005
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Arlington Heights, Illinios
    I plan on doing the same thing actually. I'm doing a tourny this weekend, never trained no-gi but it was included in the price of admission, so I sure as hell am doing it now. I'm not worried about it at all.
     
  10. mrblack

    mrblack Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2005
    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    B.C. Canada
    i do no gi and i want to know what a darce is...
     
  11. Commissar

    Commissar Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2003
    Messages:
    15,585
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    British Columbia
    Why not compete gi?
     
  12. TheHighlander

    TheHighlander Green Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    1
    If you are training as though your opponent isn't wearing a gi then you have a pretty good chance at transitioning. You'll have to watch out for the sweat factor, and unless you've wrestled you're going to have problems with takedowns. You're really going to want to get some experience in no-gi rolling though. The speed/pressure is way different from typical gi work and you might find that your conditioning isn't up to it.
     
  13. DirectDrive

    DirectDrive Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2003
    Messages:
    6,544
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    outskirts of life

    it's a choke. it's mainly used when passing a persons guard. if you are passing on their right side (to your left) you oponent will often shimp out to avoid the pass. when they do this they extend their arms. when their arms extend you shoot your right arm under their head and place your right hand in the bend of your left elbow. place your left hand on their rib cage, so you have sort f a fig-4 grip. now sprawl out.
    you can also do it with a gable grip behind the head. it's a good choke. the defense is to flatten out on your back, but you are nearly always going to get mounted.
     
  14. FutureBxer

    FutureBxer Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    Messages:
    3,049
    Likes Received:
    2


    you make it sound like no-gi school are abudant and all over the place.
     
  15. infamous mattyd

    infamous mattyd Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2004
    Messages:
    4,583
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Dirty Jersey
    invented by renzo black belt joe d'arce
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.