training gi and competing no-gi?

[sarge]

hey guys, my bjj club trains in the gi 100% of the time. I like training in it, but I really have no desire to compete in the gi. My question is, how hard of a time will I have competing no-gi with all gi training? I try not to use the gi while rolling in class, I never go for lapel chokes and I try not to hold on to it for anything. Thanks for any opinions/advice.

 

[infamous mattyd]

why not train at a no gi school?

 

[Smash your face in]

why not train at a no gi school?

Thread answered.

 

[DirectDrive]

this has been cover a lot but pretty much all of the top gi guys say that they find it very easy to do no-go. the idea is you can get very sloppy with no-gi because you are used to being slippery. there is something to that..... if you can get out of a triangle or armbar with a gi you can probably get out pretty easily without a gi.
also, there are a lot less subs with no-gi so they are having to think about defending less. you have to worry about RNC, triangle, arm triangle, armbar kimura/americana and darce (i know there are a lot more no-gi subs but these are the meat and potatos). there are a lot less sweeps too.

 

[Soid]

Hmm.. Marcelo Garcia in 2003 didn't train nogi for ADCC because he was told to do the tourny the day before because someone dropped out. Roger Gracie I heard only trained nogi a few weeks before ADCC.

 

[Soulfly]

How about going to a nearby school that does No Gi grappling when they have open mat?

 

[sarge]

why not train at a no gi school?

The only no gi school around here is taught by a traditional ju jitsu guy. I have trained there a couple of times and didn't care for it. The bjj guys are far more technical/advanced.

 

[ClubberLange]

you have to worry about RNC, triangle, arm triangle, armbar kimura/americana and darce

what's a darce?

 

[Cornsloth]

I plan on doing the same thing actually. I'm doing a tourny this weekend, never trained no-gi but it was included in the price of admission, so I sure as hell am doing it now. I'm not worried about it at all.

 

[mrblack]

i do no gi and i want to know what a darce is...

 

[Commissar]

Why not compete gi?

 

[TheHighlander]

hey guys, my bjj club trains in the gi 100% of the time. I like training in it, but I really have no desire to compete in the gi. My question is, how hard of a time will I have competing no-gi with all gi training? I try not to use the gi while rolling in class, I never go for lapel chokes and I try not to hold on to it for anything. Thanks for any opinions/advice.

If you are training as though your opponent isn't wearing a gi then you have a pretty good chance at transitioning. You'll have to watch out for the sweat factor, and unless you've wrestled you're going to have problems with takedowns. You're really going to want to get some experience in no-gi rolling though. The speed/pressure is way different from typical gi work and you might find that your conditioning isn't up to it.

 

[DirectDrive]

what's a darce?

it's a choke. it's mainly used when passing a persons guard. if you are passing on their right side (to your left) you oponent will often shimp out to avoid the pass. when they do this they extend their arms. when their arms extend you shoot your right arm under their head and place your right hand in the bend of your left elbow. place your left hand on their rib cage, so you have sort f a fig-4 grip. now sprawl out.
you can also do it with a gable grip behind the head. it's a good choke. the defense is to flatten out on your back, but you are nearly always going to get mounted.

 

[FutureBxer]

why not train at a no gi school?

you make it sound like no-gi school are abudant and all over the place.

 

[infamous mattyd]

it's a choke. it's mainly used when passing a persons guard. if you are passing on their right side (to your left) you oponent will often shimp out to avoid the pass. when they do this they extend their arms. when their arms extend you shoot your right arm under their head and place your right hand in the bend of your left elbow. place your left hand on their rib cage, so you have sort f a fig-4 grip. now sprawl out.
you can also do it with a gable grip behind the head. it's a good choke. the defense is to flatten out on your back, but you are nearly always going to get mounted.

invented by renzo black belt joe d'arce