training at two gyms good or bad

[SHAOLINMONK420]

I train at a boxing gym with an awful coach who fought once in amateur mma and barely won. He also has jiu jitsu and mma classes

he doesnt even think sparring is that important because people get hurt and its bad for business im just going there because its free

I have a much tougher better muay thai only gym where i live.

are most instructors upset if you spill the beans about cross training

ive had some instructors look down on me for cross training sambo and bjj. dunno if its like that in striking.

i really need someones opinion i dont want to get kicked out of every gym

ive been training for 11 years in grappling and and dont know if i can give it up for striking

thank you for reading my thread and i hope everyone on here is doing well

 

[Reyesnuthugr]

Just don't spill the beans.

You're paying for the extra training and it should stay your business what you do on your off-time. Improving your self outside a gym is normal
If he finds out and gets mad just stop going to his gym, I doubt you'll lose much of anything, let alone quality in training. Probably better without his gym in the first place, tbh

EDIT-- his boxing might be worth it if you think he's good at explaining things technically. Who cares if he won or not, if he's a good coach (that happens a fair amount). If he's not, then you should just stop going to his gym probably

 

[SHAOLINMONK420]

the boxing trainer is garbage doesnt give advice on anything he just makes u jump rope and work the heavy bag

its good if u want to train heavy bag basically

the jiu jitsu instructor is actually a pro mma fighter thats good though

anyways thanks for the input. you def seem like you got the right idea and gave good advice

 

[SandisLL]

Well, what you really need?
If it is pure boxing or KB, why boxing coach with experience in MMA is needed there?
Plus these MMA gyms not rarerly does have team with trainers not single trainer.

 

[SHAOLINMONK420]

its a halfway boxercise guy with no boxing experience that owns the gym

he had one amateur fight he barely won

in otherwords im just using his boxing classes to work on the heavy bag

you can delete this thread i think the first reply guy was right

 

[CFGroup]

Take the BJJ classes and don't brag about it at the MT gym...

Pretty basic, unless you've already boasted about "someone (I could) will just take you to the ground" to the MT guys...

 

[tekkenfan]

it can hurt more than help if 2 different styles of coaching conflict one coach trying to change your stance ect id choose whats tyle best suits you and use the other gym for sparring

 

[tekkenfan]

the boxing trainer is garbage doesnt give advice on anything he just makes u jump rope and work the heavy bag

its good if u want to train heavy bag basically

the jiu jitsu instructor is actually a pro mma fighter thats good though

anyways thanks for the input. you def seem like you got the right idea and gave good advice

sadly theirs tons of "boxing" coaches and tbh id say a good 70% suck since anyone can just turn pro and theirs no real belt system in boxing youll get lots of egotistical guys trying to become coaches

 

[Blake_UK]

I train at a boxing gym with an awful coach who fought once in amateur mma and barely won. He also has jiu jitsu and mma classes

he doesnt even think sparring is that important because people get hurt and its bad for business im just going there because its free

I have a much tougher better muay thai only gym where i live.

are most instructors upset if you spill the beans about cross training

ive had some instructors look down on me for cross training sambo and bjj. dunno if its like that in striking.

i really need someones opinion i dont want to get kicked out of every gym

ive been training for 11 years in grappling and and dont know if i can give it up for striking

thank you for reading my thread and i hope everyone on here is doing well

Its your money mate. Its not up to the coach or owners of any gym (or any service you use and pay for) to tell you off for training somewhere else. Its none of their business.
And if they did have a problem tell them to fuck off and leave as they clearly have too big of n ego and/or are worried that you will realise the training/coaching/facilities/price is better elsewhere.

 

[j123]

Its your money mate. Its not up to the coach or owners of any gym (or any service you use and pay for) to tell you off for training somewhere else. Its none of their business.
And if they did have a problem tell them to fuck off and leave as they clearly have too big of n ego and/or are worried that you will realise the training/coaching/facilities/price is better elsewhere.

What's funny is so many try to make it their business, some approach it hardheaded others approach it softer, but the core of the message is sitll the same. Fuck that noise, loyalty esp. with gyms is overrated.

Hard: Traitor, abandoning the team and being un-greatful, letting everyone down, even that new kid you said you were gonna help out!

Soft: You can try it out there, but we're better and less dogmatic like, besides I know kru/professor xyz over there, and he's a bit of a nutcase that's a dishonorable fella, so you're better off not wasting your money over there. Btw we have new overpriced (10x markup) hoodies, rashguards, and Gi's you must wear to training. One article per class, we don't allow filth here.

 

[SandisLL]

We have monthly payments according to the program you choose and the signed agreement.
However, we also have a membership club, and we are taking good people into it. The entry fee is only xx, our club members have a special register and registration costs only x. Yes, we also have small annual membership payments.
Btw we have new overpriced hoodies, rashguards, and Gi's you must wear to training. One article per class, we don't allow filth here.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

I train at a boxing gym with an awful coach who fought once in amateur mma and barely won. He also has jiu jitsu and mma classes

he doesnt even think sparring is that important because people get hurt and its bad for business im just going there because its free

I have a much tougher better muay thai only gym where i live.

are most instructors upset if you spill the beans about cross training

ive had some instructors look down on me for cross training sambo and bjj. dunno if its like that in striking.

i really need someones opinion i dont want to get kicked out of every gym

ive been training for 11 years in grappling and and dont know if i can give it up for striking

thank you for reading my thread and i hope everyone on here is doing well

Its your body, train it how you wish..for your specific goals...dont let coaches get in your way if they choose to be roadblocks thats on them..you can only control you and your reactions not theirs..

In the end your training should be tailored to your needs and goals..if a coach is worth holding on to and he respects you as a student there shouldnt be an issue..as long as one will not conflict with the others schedule wise..

For example dont attend mauy thai classes when boxing class or grappling class is on...that can effect relations with coaches..so train the others in rotations outside of each other times and all should be good..

Best of luck,heres some background of mine so im not just some randy commenting

Ive been training japanese jiujitsu for 9 years plus , i am 1 belt away from black belt (need my brown and then black)...ive trained boxing before that and currently i am taking up Muay thai to prepare for my first MMA fight (amatuer or pro) which corona virus has derailed any current plans for my first fight..so the wait continues

 

[SandisLL]

For example dont attend mauy thai classes when boxing class or grappling class is on...that can effect relations with coaches..so train the others in rotations outside of each other times and all should be good..

Best of luck,heres some background of mine so im not just some randy commenting

OK, most likely you and your friends, ppl you know didn't had experience with sensei / club / instructor/ trainer that want you to train only in his club/ class etc.
There are ppl that doesn't encourage additional training in another club, these guys does have mantra : only our gym is good, only my classes are good etc.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

OK, most likely you and your friends, ppl you know didn't had experience with sensei / club / instructor/ trainer that want you to train only in his club/ class etc.
There are ppl that doesn't encourage additional training in another club, these guys does have mantra : only our gym is good, only my classes are good etc.

I havent personally experienced it but if i did, i would simply explain why i feel its necessary for me to train and the other location...for my goals

For example if a boxing coach is telling me i should only train at his gym and my goals are to compete in MMA i would tell him, i need to train grappling along side my boxing in preparation for my fight..i want you to coach me for stand up i value you big time as a coach for stand up but i need other tools to get where im going and you dont provide them..and if he refuses or wants to cry..then i will take my training somewhere else...i dont need coach drama when preparing for combat thats stressful enough

You have to be in control of your training if your going to be in control of your skill set moving forward..otherwise you will he dictated by one style or skillset which make you predictable and therefore beatable

I believe you should have some resemblance of a core team or gym or style you study the most but working with others or adding to your game is key over time imo

 

[j123]

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I havent personally experienced it but if i did, i would simply explain why i feel its necessary for me to train and the other location...for my goals

For example if a boxing coach is telling me i should only train at his gym and my goals are to compete in MMA i would tell him, i need to train grappling along side my boxing in preparation for my fight..i want you to coach me for stand up i value you big time as a coach for stand up but i need other tools to get where im going and you dont provide them..and if he refuses or wants to cry..then i will take my training somewhere else...i dont need coach drama when preparing for combat thats stressful enough

You have to be in control of your training if your going to be in control of your skill set moving forward..otherwise you will he dictated by one style or skillset which make you predictable and therefore beatable

I believe you should have some resemblance of a core team or gym or style you study the most but working with others or adding to your game is key over time imo

Keep in mind with more chill gyms who look at gym memberships like dating and not a marriage; If you want to compete under a certain gym and rep them, the place you are at majorly during camp is who will let you compete.

But for having control over your regimen, its funny how in the ammy you're seen as a full-time employee who signed an NDA, vs when you're a pro, its like you're a freelance contractor who has no obligation to stay; At that point you hire the team or coach vs the other way around

 

[Square-Ring]

I know where this place is.

 

[SandisLL]

Yes, depending from your contract with a gym it might be with different outcomes for amateur.
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Usually yes, you are depending from gym get your first amateur licence: paperwork from gym, that you had training bla bla bla. Plus medical paperwork that you get from doctors etc and ofc fees to get licence/ registration.
Also athletes compete " from " gym/ club and are depending from gym/ club.
However when one already does have licence and had competed, club might be changed if new club agree that you compete from their club with this no problems for commision.
# Yes, there depending from your country laws etc you have to evalue what contract you had signed with your first gym No1.
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Cos in many european countries sports councils and federations can't do with you anything even if you changed club each month.
If for this tournament your current club provide paper that you represent this club in this tournament.
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The biggest power ower a guy gym does have from time when he started to train till he get licence and had competed somewhere.
& There also amateur might have contracts with his own sponsor/ sponsors etc stuff.
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[SandisLL]

Nightmare might be if you are living in location where only one gym that does have competitive athletes in your sport...…… Then they have almost monopoly in this location: U want to compete in sport x? Use our club or drive x time to next city to train for example.
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[j123]

Nightmare might be if you are living in location where only one gym that does have competitive athletes in your sport...…… Then they have almost monopoly in this location: U want to compete in sport x? Use our club or drive x time to next city to train for example.
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That sounds pretty normal in a super niche hobby

My gf's mom shows her dogs in what's basically a pageant show, the community is so small, one breeder basically has a monopoly on the entire community where she influences judges. It sounds big, but its not, there's probably 1000 ppl total in the community in this country

 

[Calmathetic9]

Speaking from personal experience, attending two gyms simultaneously is confusing to say the least! Chances are the trainers will give conflicting advice i.e. you are tall, use your height, stay tall whilst the other one advices to bend slightly at the knees and remain mobile.

I can provide more examples but it really messed me up when I was training daily back a few years ago.

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