Traditional Jiu-Jitsu

[rabidkoala84]

Hey, help me out. I'm considering pursuing my blackbelt in Jiu-Jitsu, but I have a dilema. I want a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu blackbelt, but there aren't any good teachers in my area. Then I heard about a guy that works in my agency who fights somewhat professionally and has a blackbelt in traditional (Japanese) Jiu-Jitsu. My problem is that I know next to nothing about the art form. Can anyone give me a little background or a website to read up on it?

 

[Rbagu3]

Jujutsu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it's where judo and bjj did come from

 

[irc]

JJJ = does not work.
BJJ = works.

 

[spirez]

After 6 months training i choked out a black belt ju-jitsu instructor 3 times in 5 minutes...

I wasn't even good at the time!

 

[Rbagu3]

JJJ = does not work.
BJJ = works.

depends where you learn the jjj

 

[rabidkoala84]

What's the difference in the styles? Rbagu3 I haven't had a chance to check the site yet, but I'll get to it in a bit. Refreshing the thread is easier right now.

 

[rabidkoala84]

By the way, Curry Man is hilarious.

 

[Rbagu3]

What's the difference in the styles? Rbagu3 I haven't had a chance to check the site yet, but I'll get to it in a bit. Refreshing the thread is easier right now.

i know more about the whole judo aspect of it. but basically kano (founder of judo) took the stuff out of JJJ that involed the use of power and weight (JJJ was used to kill samurai using hand to hand combat) and took the leverage, and balance moves, thus being judo (gentle way) bjj is the same thing, nothing is going to make you have to power your way thru, like it would in JJJ. and you aren't going to have useless samurai kill moves. but a legit JJJ black belt would be good, it served the samurai well

 

[Rbagu3]

By the way, Curry Man is hilarious.

new sig. and btw you are a fan of karo. so me and you are now best friends

 

[rabidkoala84]

new sig. and btw you are a fan of karo. so me and you are now best friends

Karo is the shit! And his little solo after the Burkman fight is my favorite song.

 

[Mikey Triangles]

depends where you learn the jjj

not usually

JJJ = does not work.
BJJ = works.

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[Rbagu3]

not usually



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so you are telling me that the JJJ guys in japan have no chance in a mma fight?

 

[Rbagu3]

not usually

btw EVERYTHING matters where you train it. idk if you do BJJ for 25 years, if you have someone who totally sucks teaching it, you will never do anything good

 

[judofarmerbob]

depends on the style. if it's lookin like aikido, stay away. if there's lots of "ki breathing" type shit, stay away.

it comes down to this: are you looking to learn a martial art or a sport?

did you check out any judo schools?

 

[Defy]

^^^

 

[lethalazn]

threads like this are gonna rack up post numbers....QUICK

main difference: BJJ is guaranteed to work, mat doesn't lie...
JJJ on the other hand, it depends HIGHLY on who's teaching, some just teach katas and pressure points and never roll live since their art is too deadly, some crapple (spar but their ability in sparring is NOWHERE near that of BJJ) and a few places that are actually legit, but good luck finding one. I would say something that's common in most JJJ schools is that they stress memorizing a lot of moves as opposed to a few that you're going to keep using again and again (in BJJ)

Three cases of JJJ guys I've sparred with
One of them trained for 2 years, i grappled with him when i totally sucked (less than 4 months), threw him, mounted him, armbarred him under 10 seconds, i actually wasted two seconds wondering if he really stuck out his Armbar under mount since he supposedly did a grappling art for two years....

The other guy, started JJJ a year before I did any grappling. last time i saw him grapple, he got mauled in the takedowns and guard passing because he was virtually clueless with the No-Gi grips, but he has an annoyingly strong turtle and he's almost impossible to submit.

o and I did get subbed during my first two months of training by this JJJ guy who was hell belt on pulling the guillotine choke

I wouldn't want to say that BJJ is "better" but I can definitely say that your chances of getting good training are MUCH higher with BJJ

 

[codemonkey76]

There is only one question you need to ask, do they compete against other clubs and do well?

Because most JJJ clubs won't compete outside their own club and will try to convince you that their style is the SHIT.

 

[Rbagu3]

There is only one question you need to ask, do they compete against other clubs and do well?

Because most JJJ clubs won't compete outside their own club and will try to convince you that their style is the SHIT.

idk why i find that funny. but like i said, JJJ isn't really relevant unless you are fighting the samurai

 

[Darksky]

Go roll with the guy and see what he has to offer. In general most JJJ guys have alot of trouble in MMA or actual fight situations.

 

[rabidkoala84]

depends on the style. if it's lookin like aikido, stay away. if there's lots of "ki breathing" type shit, stay away.

it comes down to this: are you looking to learn a martial art or a sport?

did you check out any judo schools?

Yeah. In my area, guys are just trying to make a quick dollar so they teach Mixed Martial Arts. It's rare to find anyone who teaches just one martial art. And I don't wanna learn a sport, I'm into the art form. It's fun for me. I dabbled in brazilian, but it was all informal and only when I had time. That's where the passion started, but my teacher was teaching me as he learned. He was only a blue belt. Now he's joined a Mixed Martial Arts dojo/gym(?) but I want to specialize. Hence this thread. I have the chance to train under a blackbelt in traditional jj, but I wanna know about it before I do it (history, differences from bjj, etc.)