Media Top 5 wrestlers in UFC history according to Ben Askren

[seanb1979]

No Mark Coleman? Matt Lindland also had some serious wrestling creds.

 

[JJSBUR]

My point is that an Olympic Gold Medalist in wrestling should be on anyone's list of the Top 5 wrestlers in UFC history.

Olympic freestyle wrestling does not translate into fighting or mma as well as collegiate. There are also people great at freestyle that are beatable in collegiate rules as well as great collegiate rules wrestler that struggle with freestyle.

 

[Alpha-Q-Up]

Pretty accurate. Khabib has used his wrestling in a more dominant fashion than anyone else. 27 - 0, no rounds even loss outside of the 1 conor cheated 4 times in.

All the others have loss rounds and fights.

 

[acannxr]

Mendes got 2 on Aldo as well so saying only Edgar got 2 takedowns on Aldo is wrong.

Mendes only got one takedown against Aldo.

 

[Black Mamba]

Jones should be on that list at either 4 or 5. Also, GSP and Khabib should be switched

 

[yookfarb]

Pretty bad list, I'm surprised. It's weird that he gives Hughes a nod when Koscheck fought during that same time and was clearly much better.
Frankie? Love Frankie but lol no

to me both Koscheck and Hendricks were too arrogant and half assed it when they were implementing their wrestling, which led to their inevitable career cliffdives... both were far better than GSP, Hughes, Fitch, etc. but were not in the same galaxy when it came to consistency

if anything you would tell wrestlers aspiring to be fighters to not be like them

 

[Tuf_guy]

Couture, Shrek, Koscheck would be on a list before Hughes, for me. Mark Coleman with headbutts (and steroids).

 

[moreorless87]

The fuck are you talking about?

Got a quick takedown on a desperate Cormier that DC escaped right away, did Gus outwrestle Jones in the first fight?

If Jones had made the fights wrestling matches and and taken down and controlled DC he'd have outwrestled him, shutting down his wrestling and getting some counter takedowns on an aggressive opponent isn't that.

 

[Hamm and Clov]

1) GSP - By not ever having been taken down by a Swedish boxer.

Nah Jones and GSP are the two guys who have outwrestled elite mma wrestlers. In GSP’s case, multiple times. Jones however has turned out to be an elite mma striker and relies on that mostly. GSP was also an elite striker but carried a wrestling-focused approach for the second half of his career.

 

[Hamm and Clov]

Also, Khabib is my favorite LW by the has never faced anyone close to an elite wrestler. Someone like Gillespie is going to be a real challenge I reckon. Go Khabib though!!

 

[MMACroatia]

Mendes only got one takedown against Aldo.

Again,wrong.He got 2 as well
This is a takedown

Aldo got right back up here as well what you count as takedown for Edgar(as it is) but so is for Mendes

So they both have 2

 

[acannxr]

Again,wrong.He got 2 as well
This is a takedown

It's officially not counted as a takedown, because Aldo's core/hips are crazy and Mendes never got top position.

Next time you accuse someone of being wrong, make sure you're right first, otherwise it just makes you look silly.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

Jon Jones >

 

[fortheo]

i disagree, i just think some of those guys have shown higher level wrestling, edgar has just been around a long time so we've seen more of him than some of the guys i listed, i know edgar has accomplished more than some of them but i'm just going by what i see in the cage.


i don't even wanna argue though, you have your opinion i have mine. i won't change your mind you won't change mine.

Edgar being around a long time at the highest level is just more evidence of how well he's used his wrestling...We'll see if yoel and usman and cejudo hang around the top ten for over a decade and get mutliple belts in the process with their wrastling.

 

[Number 8]

Is Romero in bellator now or what..

 

[MMACroatia]

It's officially not counted as a takedown, because Aldo's core/hips are crazy and Mendes never got top position.

Next time you accuse someone of being wrong, make sure you're right first, otherwise it just makes you look silly.

Who cares what the stats say
Stats officially also say Condit landed more strikes then Lawler in 5th round,does that win him the round?
Aldo spent less time down on that 2nd Edgar takedown then against Mendes,my eyes work just fine,stats are meaningless in this matter.

 

[EmbraceTheGrind]

Usman will most definitely be a top-5 MMA wrestler by the time his career ends. Dude's vastly outwrestled everyone he's fought so far.

besides the dude without a wiki page who subbed him

 

[Kraysla]

Thread title is a bit different from video content, but it was interesting to watch.

 

[acannxr]

Who cares what the stats say

You're ignoring stats because it doesn't support your argument.

Stats officially also say Condit landed more strikes then Lawler in 5th round,does that win him the round?

Total strikes in relation to scoring a round has nothing to do with what qualifies as a takedown under the unified rules, neither have anything to do with the other. The fact that you're making that leap of logic doesn't bode well for your argument.

Aldo spent less time down on that 2nd Edgar takedown then against Mendes,my eyes work just fine,stats are meaningless in this matter.

It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of Mendes never gaining top position.

 

[Jabbathehook]

No Fitch?