Top 3 Types of Guards fir MMA?

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  1. Rozzy

    Rozzy White Belt

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    What do you guys think? Is butterfly guard good for MMA?
     
  2. Jagcorps_esq

    Jagcorps_esq Red Belt

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    Closed, butterfly and half guard.
     
  3. [Tycho?]

    [Tycho?] Brown Belt

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    I'd say closed, open (feet on hips), and butterfly.

    I think open is probably the best, since you retain some mobility and offensive capability. Closed guard is good for keeping people on top of you, which for most fighters is not a good thing. Butterfly is good for sweeps, but you've gotta be fast or you'll lose it.
     
  4. rarmonio8920

    rarmonio8920 Purple Belt

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    I don't like half guard for MMA.

    But I DO like deep half guard for MMA.
     
  5. Jagcorps_esq

    Jagcorps_esq Red Belt

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    I thought the question was basically, what are the three most seen.

    I don't like half guard for MMA either, but people end up there a lot.
     
  6. HardEight

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    Rubber.










    :rolleyes:
     
  7. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    Closed guard for armbars, triangles, kimuras, guillotines
    Open guard for footlocks and leglocks or just getting distance with upkicks and standing back up

    I haven't really seen other types of guards used effectively that much in MMA. I see butterfly and half guard used a lot, but it's almost always defensively.
     
  8. gasmotorsports

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    I'm gunna go with the kind your best at in no gi while getting punched in the face
     
  9. ShotsWereFired

    ShotsWereFired Orange Belt

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    with the right practitioner (big Nog), I can see Z or 93 being useful
     
  10. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    watch out for heel hooks though

    I think butterfly is the best defensive guard for MMA, it's impossible to hit someone hard when they have you in their b-guard.

    Best offensive guard has gotta be just closed guard though, armbars and triangles from closed guard are still very common in MMA fights.
     
  11. Mike Wilson Jr.

    Mike Wilson Jr. Amateur Fighter

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    Open guard.


    Wrist/head control, foot on the hip > Closed guard
     
  12. slothofdoom

    slothofdoom White Belt

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    Open guard, closed guard, half guard.
     
  13. bora y

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    spider, upside down, turtle
     
  14. Bruce Calavera

    Bruce Calavera Purple Belt

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    Just tornado guard. Have you ever seen anyone in MMA do poorly with it? It has a 0% fail rate.
     
  15. Brad Boulton

    Brad Boulton Amateur Fighter

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    THIS!

    Id prob go with Closed, Butterfly, Open, or maybe X?
     
  16. Shemhazai

    Shemhazai Black Belt

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    Feet on hips (with overhook or shins in biceps), butterfly and deep half.
     
  17. hughes fan

    hughes fan Silver Belt

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    Half, closed and butterfly guard is great because you can push off the hips or you can look for subs like omoplatas or just reposition your feet and go for a guillotine.
     
  18. JerseyTrash

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    Big Nog seems to work half guard well.
     
  19. ijustwannasurf

    ijustwannasurf Brown Belt

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    I agree with open/butterfly, closed and half.
    The real key, IMO, is being aggressive from the bottom. Keep that posture broken, mess with their base and move your hips.
     
  20. ZuZitsu**

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    Half guard is not good for MMA, maybe the worstttttt guard!

    In order I think:

    1. Rubber guard (bc u cant get hit if u do it right)
    2. Closed (bc u can break posture and keep control)
    3. Butterfly (bc u can control opponents hips)
     

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