GLORY
SUPERKOMBAT
K-1
Kunlun
Enfusion
WLF
WFL (the new Dutch promotion)
FFC (in Croatia)
Global FC
Respect World Series (the new Romanian promotion)
These are the top 10 now I think. Did I miss anyone? Maybe another from China? Or only WLF was after Kunlun?
I removed WFL of the Netherlands, and put KOK. And I didn"t put them in any order. Glory is first and then the rest. He asked me about a top 10, not to rank them. I avoid the stupid discussions this way.Put Superkombat on place 5 or so and WLF after Kunlun and that's about right.
Objectively, SK isn"t 2nd anymore but it"s still a first tier promotion. Glory is #1 and Kunlun #2, soon maybe Kunlun will even be 1st if it will improve the organization. Really, the money are now in China. It could be the new Japan with better organization and even some more money, or not. Glory, Superkombat, all decreased financially. Maybe even the new K-1? Lack of sponsors in Europe in the case of SK and regarding Glory lost money after spent millions for shows in America.what are the top 10 kickboxing (muay thai and full contact karate included) promotion today?
i know glory is #1 and superkombat is #2 (k-1 no so well) ,beside that are there any else?
isnt WLF super big in china?Put Superkombat around place 5 and WLF after Kunlun and that's about right.
This promotion is lacking hugely the organization from what I know. And they have money too. Maybe not at the level of Kunlun they brought stars, but they had stars (international stars of course). It"s just my opinion.isnt WLF super big in china?
isnt WLF super big in china?
Wouldn't argue with anyone saying either way really. Hard to say even having followed the Chinese scene quite a bit.not even close to kunlun in ratings/tickets sold and budget. kunlun is the biggest promotion.
Wouldn't rank Respect World Series anywhere yet. Let's see them actually have an event and not go away right after.
seriously? superkombat ahead of enfusion? have you seen the skill and entertainment discrepancy between the events? enfusion blows superkombat out of the water each and every time again. it's not even close. make a poll and ask people and you'll see. you are a bit biased when it comes to skMy top:
1. GLORY
2. Kunlun
3-4. SUPERKOMBAT/K-1 (K-1 improved)
5-6. Enfusion/WFL
7. KOK (simply because GFC is dead)
8. FFC (last cards improved a bit, but it was more regional before)
9. Respect World Series aka Respect WS/Respect/RWS
10. WFL
The last 2 are new promotions, from Romania and the Netherlands. Respect with the Respect Gym of Bucharest mainstays: Adegbuyi, Stoica, Stoica, Cătinaș and Bădoi, and which promises future bigger shows. And WFL of the Netherlands with a very nice 3rd card but I don"t trust them since A1 WCC is pretty dead. Of course, not only the Russian promotions (I"m not talking about Akhmat which came and will surely go) are solid but also the Russian Tatneft is but they don"t reach my top.
I don"t care if you like my top, I know some kickboxing and in my opinion it"s objective. First tier is normally only the first 4 (Glory, Kunlun, Superkombat and K-1), maximum the top 6 (Enfusion including and WFL of China; but to me Enfusion is still under SK and it was a lot under but not that much anymore, while Wu have one of the poorest organization in kickboxing regarding how much money they have).
you are a bit biased when it comes to sk
Are you serious? it seems like Kunlun shows in china have almost no people in the stands. Wlf usually has a decent audience but they are probably giving away a shit ton of tickets. kunlun has the biggest budget but wlf tv parters usually spend more on the event production and aesthetics. Also i thought wlf gets much bigger ratings because they are on a nationally broadcasted channel while kunlun's main broadcaster is a large regional channelnot even close to kunlun in ratings/tickets sold and budget. kunlun is the biggest promotion.
Your journey into the world of Chinese Kickfighting won't be complete unless you've fully adopted the language, grasshopper.Jiangsu broadcasts nationwide and is bigger than Henan TV AFAIK. Hunan (that K-1 was on) and CCTV then trump both of them.
Don't know about the ratings really. There's actual ratings info available but it's all in chinese and from what I've seen as images so you can't even translate with online tools. If someone read Chinese it'd be a fairly simple question to answer I'd imagine.