Top 10 Grapplers, Ever!

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  1. The Man Monster

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    1st Royler Gracie
    2nd Nino Schembri
    3rd Leo Vieira
    4th Fabio Gurgel
    5th Murilo Bustamante
    6th Saulo Ribeiro
    7th Amaury Bitetti
    8th Roberto Roleta
    9th Vitor Shaolin
    10th Marcio Feitosa & Ze Mario Sperry (tied)

    Interesting to see that De La Riva didn't make the list, along with Rolls.
    Comments, Thoughts, Opinions?
     
  2. Delbjj

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    hmmmmmmmm, karelin, kimura, rickson .................
     
  3. johil d'o

    johil d'o Thought Warrior

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    I think that was Gracie Magazine's list for the 1990's only. Rickson was listed by the magazine as the #1 guy for 1980s, and Rolls was #1 in the 1970s. Your thread title is misleading since you failed to mention that it was Gracie magazine's list and related only to competitions in the 1990s.
     
  4. yankspanker

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    well said
    http://www.graciemag.com/?c=148&a=3327
     
  5. The Man Monster

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    My mistake, sorry for misleading anybody... I myself thought this was a "Greatest of All Time" article since it said "Royler Replaces Rickson."
     
  6. johil d'o

    johil d'o Thought Warrior

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    No harm! I just wanted to make sure everyone knows where that list came from.

    I'm glad to see on the list the name of Roberto Roleta, known to many simply as "Roleta", the man that popularized the perplexing "upside down" (or "damn") guard, which Pe de Pano has done so well in more recent times.
     
  7. sobralfan1

    sobralfan1 better than you belt

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    I just started a thread on the Pan Ams in the MMA forum like a fool. But have you guys seen the Pan Ams? Unreal!!!! The best ever guard passes, sweeps, submissions...strategies.
     
  8. scorcho

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    Yea, Rolls would definitely be on the best ever list.
     
  9. S.D.Force

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    i'll assume this is No Gi since you didn't specify, but you did use the term grappler...Anyway, of course Rickson is up there, after that, as far as most technical and dominating regardless of weight class, next in order would be: Marcelo Garcia, Leo Viera, Jacare, Roger Gracie, Royler gracie, JJ machado....in that order.... don't look at what guys like Royler have accomplished necessarily, look at the skill of everybody as a whole... If you look at it that way, you see that Marcelo Garcia is easily ahead of Royler in No Gi grappling, even if both were in their prime. And if you have ever seen Viera and Jacare grapple you would no doubt place them at the top of the list. Far higher than guys like Sperry....All you need to do to judge where Sperry goes on the list is to look at his superfight with Mark Kerr. That was one of the WORST fights i've ever seen. VERY poor job by Sperry, and also realize that Sperry won ADCC when it was in it's infancy and top tier submission competition was hard to come by.
     
  10. 350 lbs fist

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    Roger Gracie and Jacare deserve a spot. Top of the food chain right now.
     
  11. ZeMino

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    Gotta go with Rickson on this..
     
  12. Flibb

    Flibb Uwe Boll fan

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    surprising how low Ze Mario is ranked. Isnt bitetti the role model of Matt Lindland in terms of stalling?
     
  13. Weonlywonsixtwo

    Weonlywonsixtwo Banned Banned

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    How can Royler be 1 if he lost to Bravo via Triangle.
     
  14. SuperSuperRambo

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    To be fair, Royler has done way more in sub grappling and bjj than Bravo. In fact he was dominating Bravo until that beautiful triangle (eddie lost in the next round). Royler is a 4 time adcc champ.
     
  15. sakufan

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    I would take Bitetti out of that list and put in Fernando "Margarida" Pontes.
     
  16. minimagpro

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    my list or current bjj fighters:

    1) Jacare
    2) Roger Gracie
    3) Marcelo Garcia
    4) Margarida
    5) Pe De Pano
    6) Leo Vieira
    7) Saulo Ribiero
    8) Terere
    9) Xande Ribiero
    10) Cafe Dantes
    11) Eduardo Telles
    12) Dave and Dan Camarillo
    13) Parrumpinha
    14) Pe De Chumbo
    15) Rodrigo Riscado


    im forgetting some i know but im in a rush to get somewhere.
     
  17. S.D.Force

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    once again...nobody has specified if we are talking about gi or no gi..... this makes a WORLD of difference in who goes on the list....if it is Gi, then yes, i would put Margarida somewhere in the top of the list.... I don' t know much about sperry and his Gi work, but i certainly wouldn't put him in the top of the No Gi category.....and as far as Bravo goes, well there is NO way that he could be anywhere close to being anywhere on anybody's list. He has hardly competed at all compared to Royler, and in no way deserves to be on the list.
     
  18. Kforcer

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    The list is total b.s. It is a list of BJJ'ists, not of "grapplers." Where is Ad Santel, Tahkti, John Smith, Watanabe, Kimura, Sakuraba, Uetaki, etc.?
     
  19. kid dynamite

    kid dynamite STOP! Bottom Brick!

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    why isnt anyone putting bibiano fernandes
     
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    Dioxippus.
     

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