Tony Cecchine - Anyone ever roll with him?

From my understanding, that was a video of Tony demonstrating "show" holds, and not actually "hooks" (submissions). It was taken out of context to discredit him.

I also own Cecchine's " Lost art of hooking " , and must say it is one of the best instructionals I have seen to date.
 
he has a school in chicago, and people do go there, dunno any particulars beyond that.
 
Shonie Carter's rolled with him. I don't think anyone on the boards here have.
 
That DVD series is actually very good... lot of stuff I havent seen elsewhere since I saw it in 2005.
 
I have heard him both defended and blasted. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. I have seen the lost art of hooking and some of it is legit and some of it is low percentage stuff that would rarely if ever work against anybody good, but that is true about any grappling art. His section on the double wrist lock is very good however.
 
Listen to Barnett's ideas about using catch in grappling. That guys theories are tried and true. No one can say he is a gym warrior only.
 
i've always found this funny about catch, you can't even tell if some big name in the art is a legit grappler or not because there is always some other big name running around calling them a fraud
 
Well when your legit grappling art morphs into pro wrestling I guess there are bound to be guys calling each other frauds and cutting promos on each other.
 
people tend to get stupid when dvd sales are on the line
 
For Catch to survive and legitimise itself, it may have to have as much information on technique given out freely.
 
The Lost Art of Hooking DVD is awesome. I use it from time to time in my BJJ class and guys are clueless as to what I'm doing when it works on them (even higher belts).

But then it usually ends up with them getting kind of irritated and they keep instructing me to use BJJ techniques, but in a way as if I didn't know the BJJ technique lol.
 
For someone who is dumb, what is hooking in regards to bjj, a position or a style?
 
I own his Kimura DVD and seen some of his other stuff.

I always appreciated Catch because I had a brown belt instructor who was heavily into it. But I always understood it as a supplement and not a a replacement for BJJ. As a base, I found the style to really be lacking (at least what Tony C taught) and it was more things you can add to your BJJ or wrestling game, but not an actual STYLE per se.
 
Hmmm sounds interesting and painful!
 
For someone who is dumb, what is hooking in regards to bjj, a position or a style?

From what I read in a book about catch, Hooking is slang for catch wrestling to other wrestlers back in the day. It differentiated them from the guys who just did show moves/pro wrestling/wwf stuff or sport/folkstyle/greco/etc. A guy who could hook, knew hooking,etc
 
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