TKD worthless? well...

dead link...anyways, tkd is laime - i go by my street fight exp. , the street fights i have seen, and mma matches. that is my proof.
number # one arts to study :
1-boxing- cuz its quickest, and very effective/under-rated
2-resling- harder to lern, BUT the best to know
3-Muy thai- harder than boxing to master, but very effective.
4-BJJ - harder to lern, not enuff clinch werk to put it above resling.
 
Originally posted by WhiteRussian
who sayz so? just look at this:
ftp://ftp.for.kiev.ua/charlie.mpg

Fear

I didn't even click, tkd is like taking classes designed to get your ass beat, an untrained figher is better off. at least an untrained fighter isn't going to drop to horse stance and punch from the hip until he gets kicked in the nuts.
 
Originally posted by Malachi
I didn't even click, tkd is like taking classes designed to get your ass beat, an untrained figher is better off. at least an untrained fighter isn't going to drop to horse stance and punch from the hip until he gets kicked in the nuts.

thats not what the horse stance is for. the horse stance is to lower ur center of mass, so after u get knocked out u won't land as hard.
 
oh ok. well then what is the cat stance for, is that the one designed to get your ass beaten very badly so the ambulance shows up faster?
 
what about the bird stance, when you focus your chi you can fly, the ultimate supreme grandmaster at my school said he's seen it done.
 
The fact of the matter is you have to Cross train in other arts, I take TKD and grapple as well as box, If I'm on the street I'm not gonna break out into a middle stance, DUH, I'm gonna punch your fuckin face, kick your fuckin knees, and beat you down like it's supposed to be done. Nuff said,....beotch.
 
... or you're gonna get double-legged into mount into a broken arm . . . :rolleyes:
TKD is NOT for self-defense. TKD can be modified for self-defense, but then it's no longer TKD. My big problem with TKD is that it ignores entire ranges. No clench, no groundwork. Not a wel-rounded system. At my school we never fought with our hands down like some people said. The instructors emphasized the importance of not going into any of the stances in a self-defense situation, and to keep footwork fluid.
 
Thank you. There are problems with every style, if there werent then we wouldn't have "Mixed Martial Arts". Get over it.
 
Originally posted by bertrand75
Thank you. There are problems with every style, if there werent then we wouldn't have "Mixed Martial Arts". Get over it.

Yeh but if we would have mix satnd up arts, TKD wouldnt be oin it.
 
Originally posted by Who's Laughin' Now?
... or you're gonna get double-legged into mount into a broken arm . . . :rolleyes:
TKD is NOT for self-defense. TKD can be modified for self-defense, but then it's no longer TKD. My big problem with TKD is that it ignores entire ranges. No clench, no groundwork. Not a wel-rounded system. At my school we never fought with our hands down like some people said. The instructors emphasized the importance of not going into any of the stances in a self-defense situation, and to keep footwork fluid.

yea but too bad no matter how much u tell TKDers to keep their hands up, stop playing footsie tag, and laern to kick legs, learn to punch, learn to not chamber, and most importantly STOP ACTING SO CONFIDENT, they will continue to do waht the do.
 
Fuck! Link is down...well, there was a movie of dressed up monkey hitting pads and doing high/jump kicks.
 
goss..all this flaming about TKD. WHAT DISGRACE..being korean, i can agree with some of you guys out there, but TKD schools (modern day) have been corrupted by :eek::eek::eek:s who desire money. But some schools, are still there inorder to teach real SELF-DEFENSE. i dont do TKD but i have a friend that is 2nd Dan. i sparred him, i take JKD, and basically lost. it was a no head kick/punch sparring because we did not have the proper gear [ie: head gear, mouth gaurd, gloves] so we were going at it. i got a nice punch in, but when i was goin to move in, he did a spinning back kick, which i thought was coming to my chest, hit my rite under the nose. After suffering a bleed lip, swollen as an apple, i did not under estimate TKD. i almost forgot, they train to HIT the head, thats the reason i dont blame him. BTW he was sincerally sorry.
 
I hate it when people post things that are misinformed: you don't use horse stances or exaggerated postures during full-contact sparring. get that straight people. good tkd schools know the difference between practicing traditional TKD (the official korean martial art created by General Choi, Hong Hi) and using TKD in a fighting situation. our instructors (i take TKD) emphasize techniques that work in fighting situations when we do full-contact. if someone does something fancy, our instructors let him/her know that you wouldn't use fancy stuff in a real fight.

if you check out the encyclopedia written primarily by Gen. Choi, Hong Hi, you'd notice that there is a whole lotta stuff in TKD (kicks, punches, grappling, and ground techniques) that just isn't being taught in schools nowadays. this isn't to say that all the TKD techniques are useful. in classes that i've taken with grandmaster jae h. kim, who heads the school, he adjusts traditional techniques if he feels that they were incorrect in some ways.

that others brag about their skills indicate a failing on the part of the individual, not the MA. keep that in mind.
 
Originally posted by k.o. kid
chambering a kick can be good in some situations

yes if u get beat by a bunch of chambered kicks ppl will laugh at u. and maybe flashy taunt kicks. but thats about it. (not saying its bad, i'd do it. i mean..if u know ur gonna beat someone, do it in style :cool: )
 
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