TJ responds to Davis: “Sign a one round contract. That’s all I need.”

Loiosh said:
Hard enough to break his own hands?

Gloves protect the hands, not the target. You can punch a lot harder with bigger gloves.
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So MMA guys never swing for the fences?

Could you imagine the impact of a Gervonta punch with 4 ounce gloves?
 
WhosTheBoss said:
That’s not entirely true.

I think a boxer has a better chance winning in MMA than an mma fighter has in boxing.

All a really good boxer has to do is work on tdd and he def has a MUCH better shot than mma to boxing.
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Factually untrue. A MMA fighter doesn't even have to engage with a boxer. MMA fighters will always have a better chance than boxers as a result.

And LOL @ all they have to work on is some TDD for a few weeks. Boxings idiotic fans have such a ignorant outlook on the skills required to compete in MMA.
 
WhosTheBoss said:
That’s not entirely true.

I think a boxer has a better chance winning in MMA than an mma fighter has in boxing.

All a really good boxer has to do is work on tdd and he def has a MUCH better shot than mma to boxing.
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that presumes that any MMA fighter is immediately trying to take the fight to the ground, which may be the case for guys who are primarily wrestlers or BJJ specialists...but even a guy like Woodley is going to chop the legs of boxer. anyone with half-decent muay thai is going to throw one solid leg kick and you will see the panic set in real quick on the boxer's face.

and the idea that 'all they need is TDD' assumes it is just that easy.

you think a guy who has been only boxing for years is going to easily be able to develop a sprawl that is good enough to stuff the TDs of elite wrestlers? to deal with the clinch, trips, and throws of muay thai and judo practitioners? good luck with that.

if it's that easy, where are all the mid-low tier boxers who get paid garbage? if they could walk into MMA and take out top 10 MMA fighters by just learning TDD, they could make more money in MMA and not take a million punches to the head while doing so.
 
JosephTessaro said:
Ray Mercer ktfo out of Tim Sylvia. Quick.
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and Couture humiliated Toney using a comically telegraphed shot from a mile away. did that prove anything either? not really.

those are outlier fights that don't represent what younger, smaller, faster athletes would look like. both of those fights should be thrown out the window in this debate, IMHO.
 
MRT said:
and Couture humiliated Toney using a comically telegraphed shot from a mile away. did that prove anything either? not really.

those are outlier fights that don't represent what younger, smaller, faster athletes would look like. both of those fights should be thrown out the window in this debate, IMHO.
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Sorry, this was meant for a totally different thread. Has nothing to do with this thread.
 
MRT said:
and Couture humiliated Toney using a comically telegraphed shot from a mile away. did that prove anything either? not really.

those are outlier fights that don't represent what younger, smaller, faster athletes would look like. both of those fights should be thrown out the window in this debate, IMHO.
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Wait, it was meant for this thread. I have been going back and forth between a couple today.

I quoted someone saying they would like to see a just outside their prime come in the UFC and KO someone or visa versa. I was basically saying it already happened with Ray Mercer vs. Tim Sylvia, although not in the UFC.

I did not use the Couture/Toney as an example simply because Couture didn't KO Toney.
 
JosephTessaro said:
Wait, it was meant for this thread. I have been going back and forth between a couple today.

I quoted someone saying they would like to see a just outside their prime come in the UFC and KO someone or visa versa. I was basically saying it already happened with Ray Mercer vs. Tim Sylvia, although not in the UFC.

I did not use the Couture/Toney as an example simply because Couture didn't KO Toney.
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fair enough...but I would still characterize Mercer/Sylvia as a weird outlier that is not representational of what would normally happen. Sylvia was grossly out of shape and dumb af in that fight lol
 
at least TJ is smart enough to have the boxer come to HIS territory
 
Evangelion said:
Yea its not like mma fighters throw kicks, elbows, are allowed to clinch, have much smaller gloves, have longer rounds but shorter fights, fight in a cage, etc, etc.
Nope just TDD.

You remind me of the idiot rednecks at work who've never watched or played sports but are convinced they could play in the Nba
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Sheesh their are still idiot rednecks who think they could play in one the most highly selective professional sport's leagues. In basketball they only start 5 and bench rotations are 10-11 total players who see minutes. If you don't mind me asking where do you live where rednecks think they could play in the NBA.
 
NotoriousMillions said:
Factually untrue. A MMA fighter doesn't even have to engage with a boxer. MMA fighters will always have a better chance than boxers as a result.

And LOL @ all they have to work on is some TDD for a few weeks. Boxings idiotic fans have such a ignorant outlook on the skills required to compete in MMA.
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Boxing fans and people who train in boxing gyms are good people it usually takes a humbling experience for them to not just insult an mma fighters hands. Boxing doesn't translate to MMA very well in my experience. You get taken right out of your comfort zone. Now could a stud boxer make a transition and dominate it's very possible maybe we will see it in the future.
 
MMA4Life said:
Boxing fans and people who train in boxing gyms are good people it usually takes a humbling experience for them to not just insult an mma fighters hands. Boxing doesn't translate to MMA very well in my experience. You get taken right out of your comfort zone. Now could a stud boxer make a transition and dominate it's very possible maybe we will see it in the future.
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Boxing does translate to MMA, it's just like every martial art, not all of it. Certain skills are going to be more advantageous in MMA than they would be in boxing. So realistically, if every boxer moved over to MMA, the best boxers in MMA might not even be the best boxers in boxing.

The biggest problem though is these guys not being able to grasp other martial arts. To be honest, I think most of it is ego. You can't train guys like Floyd that think their wrestling is already 8/10, or they don't want to do that "gay shit" because boxers are typically inner-city ignorant.

Martial artists tend to be the most open-minded and disciplined people around, and that is really beneficial when you're having to learn so much quickly.
 
MRT said:
fair enough...but I would still characterize Mercer/Sylvia as a weird outlier that is not representational of what would normally happen. Sylvia was grossly out of shape and dumb af in that fight lol
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I hear you...but in all fairness to Tim, Ray was not in the best shape either! I just rewatched it and wholly shit Mercer punch could not have been better timed, Silvia fell like a sack of potatoes.
 
DrunkMonkMeth said:
In a street fight?? Maybe.. ppl like to assume that mma fighter will win street fights with boxers because they are well versed on the ground and feet. But most street fights end after a few punches... ans very often only need 1 or 2 punches to end. Davis could easily just chin him when hes not ready.
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It's like some of the people who watch this sport are either sleeping, or just have such a wild childish imagination that they post shit like this....

Let me be very clear....In a street fight world class MMA fighters who are trained killers confined by rules simply are given a means to fight dirty.

Only a child with a wild imagination thinks they are somehow handicapped by this and your average Joe or anyone who doesn't actually train how to FIGHT stands any realistic chance.

The odds for this clown are even worse in a street fight against TJ....It's comical anyone would think otherwise.
 
hasn't davis said all this shit before? if he really wanted it done i dont think it would be too hard to set up
 
Nobody wants to see that fight. It would be embarrassing.
 
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