Tito Ortiz: Fedor isn't GOAT, Jon Jones is...if he can "get his s**t together"

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New interview with Tito Ortiz over the weekend on Submission Radio

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Some Topics Covered:
-his devastating loss to Liam McGeary
-how surprised he was when Liam locked in the inverted triangle
-whether he thought he was on his way to becoming a world champion again
-how the loss affects his career plans and if he will go ahead with his final Bellator fight
-Bellator: Dynamite's disappointing ratings
-Phil Davis as a possible opponent and him as a threat to McGeary's title
-fighting Frank Shamrock in a rematch
-Fedor Emelianenko's decision to fight in Japan instead of the UFC
-if Fedor is really the GOAT
-if he would fight Fedor on the new year's eve card
-ways to improve Bellator PR
-Nick Diaz's suspension Jon Jones' return to MMA and getting his life together
-Cris Cyborg's drop to 140 and if she can eventually make 135
-Holly Holm's chances against Ronda at UFC 193

Some Quotes:

Tito on if Fedor is one of the best of all time
“Well, one of the best of all time? Of course. You know, there’s 'one of'. I mean 'one of' is how many? Ten? I mean, you put the number on that and that’s the number. But the best of all time? No way. Pound for pound, the best of all time? No. He fought a lot of guys that were great at their time and his time, but you gotta go for all time, for everybody he’s competed against. You know, in Japan they did give him a lot of 'gimme fights'. Of course it's Japan and they want to do spectacle fights, where it’s a completely one sided match. But he did beat a lot of good guys. You can’t take that away from him. And he’s one of probably the biggest names in MMA. Fedor has dominated so much and so many other competitors, but the greatest of all time? No. One of? Yes. He’s one of the greatest of all time. Yes. You gotta give him that. He’s a great, great fighter.”

On who is the greatest pound for pound fighter
“Well if Jon Jones can get his shit together, I think it'd be Jon Jones for sure. As a fighter, that guy is amazing. I mean he has to be an adult and stop being a kid”

On if Tito will fight Fedor in Japan on NYE
“Not on New Year's Eve, no. I would love to. I just gotta go in and get some little, light surgical work done, I guess you could say. I gotta go get a bone shaved down. So I’ll be healed by next year. But I’m going to enjoy Christmas, I’m going to enjoy Thanksgiving, I’m going to enjoy New Year's, I’m going to enjoy my birthday for the first time in a long, long, long time. I miss missing those times, and right now my kids are six years old and I want to enjoy the holidays with my children. I think that’s the number one thing for me right now, is to be a Dad and to be happy. New Years Eve, I’ll be having a cold beer in my hand, saying "happy new year's" to my family, instead of going out and trying to kill somebody. It sound a lot funner to me (laugh). I’ve been putting a lot of work in over a last few years, so I think it’s time to take a little break.”

On how Tito sees the fight between him and Fedor going and what advantages he holds over him
“Wrestling of course. On our feet, he’s a little older. He’s not the young guy who throws super fast now. I think in the wrestling area. Him going for submissions, and they’re not crisp for submissions. So just try and punish him. But of course if we fought each other, it'd be at light heavyweight. I mean I’ve always fought at Light Heavyweight. There’s no reason to go . I think my weight class, when I’m in the best shape possible is 205, and that’s what I'll to fight at. But you know, I think my wrestling will keep it at par. I know the fight on New Year's, I've heard of a few opponents, so it will be a question of if he can handle the competitors he competes against.”

Tito shares his thoughts on the NSAC's suspension of Nick Diaz
“You know, as (far as) Nick Diaz having his third offence - I guess when you say 'three times, shame on you', and this is a complete shame on him on this one for his third time. But for five years? I think that’s getting a little drastic. I mean, the guy has a license to smoke marijuana.”
“In my eyes, I don’t see it as a stimulant to make you a better fighter. I’m not saying this is ok to do, or anything like that, but five years is a little drastic. And I see Jon Jones just get a slap on the wrist from getting a felony and wrecking into a car, or wrecking into a girl who was pregnant and (has) 72 public appearances at a 'Boys and Girls' club and 18 months probation. I just scratch my head about that, going 'this is crazy'. And there’s so many other instances that happen. I mean, as far as Anderson Silva. He only gets popped for a year for doing steroids, which is an enhancement drug for mixed martials. It just doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know. I’m glad I don’t have to deal with it. I’m glad it’s never been a problem that I’ve had. So I just gotta sit back and let the athletic commission do their job. I don’t agree with it, but I sure don’t agree with any athlete using any type of drugs, whether it does help you or doesn’t, during training, during fights.”

On if Cybrog can get down to 135 lbs to fight Ronda Rousey
“Well if Ronda ever wants to fight. Cris told Ronda she’d cut down to 135 to fight and Ronda won’t do it. So she said she wants to get more fights under her belt. So they keep feeding 135-pounders to Ronda and Cris is just (gonna) keep dominating at 140-145, until Ronda finally says 'ok, we’ll fight'. So we're just waiting for Ronda to step up.”

If Tito gives Holly Holm a shot against Ronda
“Submission in two minutes.”

If retirement crossed Tito’s mind during the post-fight speech at Bellator Dynamite
“Never. No. I have one more fight. I make really, really, really, really good money and I love it. This is fun, I like to fight, and I don’t know, I fulfil everything that is given to me. I had a contract with four fights on it, I'm gonna have one more fight to finish up four fights and I’ll fulfil it. There was no idea of retiring at all. It would be nice. Maybe it is time, but I think one more good fight. My body’s right, my mind's right, everything’s just firing on all cylinders and I like the way life is right now, and it’s fun again to do it. Like I said, I lost to the champion. It wasn’t like I lost to a nobody. I look back on it, and should I have picked an easier fight? Should I have fought a Kimbo, or a Ken Shamrock, or a Frank Shamrock? No. I fought the best man and he was better than me that night. But it wasn’t like I got dominated. Wasn’t like he was gonna knock me unconscious. No, I fought him and I made a mistake.”

On if this loss to Liam was one of Tito’s toughest losses in years
“It was one of the toughest losses in years, 'cause I put so much into it and everything at home was so perfect, and I felt like I was gonna win. It was hard, it was really hard. It took a couple of weeks, you know, it took all the way until now. I took a couple of weeks to kind of lick my wounds and understand that things happen for a reason. I think I feel better after a loss than I would if I won. It'd be nice to win, but still I gotta be challenged in my life like this to understand that just 'cause everything is perfect, don’t mean that life is going to end up perfect. But I can make it as perfect as possible for my kids and my family, and that’s number one. And so long as I’m happy doing it, that makes most sense. But I took it hard, I took it really hard. But I just...I already got back into the gym, I started doing weights and speed bag work. So I wanna keep my shape, I want to compete again, and I don’t know - does that spring Shamrock fight happen. I mean, do one of those other super-fights happen where someone wants to watch it? 'Cause I mean, I’m not going to get my title shot anymore. I have one more fight on my contract, so let’s make a spectacle of it and let’s get somebody that I can kill almost.”

On what his Motivation would be for his next fight, considering he won't be getting another title shot
“I guess draw the fight out and make it 15 minutes of just pure punishment and entertain the fans that go watch it. Let them all go out and see a beating unfold in front of them.”
 
Wasn't it just last year that Tito got fucked up and crashed his Porsche?
 
My thoughts:

- Tito is throwing stones in a glass house telling someone else to be an adult.

- Tito will die if he fights Fedor.
 
If Jones gets his stuff together...that would set up for an epic return and run in the UFC, both in the LHW and HW division. I honestly don't want to see Jon be one of those 30 for 30 stories on ESPN. That would be a waste of so much talent.
 
Fedor was never disqualified and never broke the law.

He's my Goat over Jones.
 
dang it tito


I'm...like 90% certain that was Paul Walker.

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Jones is definitely the guy today who I think has a shot of surpassing Fedor although I think it might take a move to HW to do so.

Anderson and GSP did not IMHO face the skill level in their opposition and in Georges case he didn't put in enough effort to finish.

Fedor actually shot down the guy who would otherwise be the GOAT for me with his wins over Nog.
 
Fedor was never disqualified and never broke the law.

He's my Goat over Jones.

What does breaking the law have to do with fighting ability:rolleyes: Jones never lost via cut, ko, submission, or doctor stoppage either. Fedor lost every other way possible besides dq.
 
This interview will probably get shit on because this is Sherdog and he's Tito but there's not much he said that's unrealistic. I do question the Cyborg vs Rousey stuff being true but that's their version of the story. Ronda has always said make the weight and she'll fight her.
 
As long as he was the best HW of the night.

P4P?

Fedor is the P4P GOAT (which doesn't even matter) as well as the real GOAT.

The UFC LHW division was made so that Tito would be as big as possible for the division. He says he is a LHW and would fight Fedor at LHW. CCCC, like he isn't a HW if he doesn't cut weight.... CCCC
 
What does breaking the law have to do with fighting ability:rolleyes: Jones never lost via cut, ko, submission, or doctor stoppage either. Fedor lost every other way possible besides dq.

As I said it's my Goat list.

You can make Fedor # 44 on your list and I won't argue with ya :)
 
Jones is definitely the guy today who I think has a shot of surpassing Fedor although I think it might take a move to HW to do so.

Anderson and GSP did not IMHO face the skill level in their opposition and in Georges case he didn't put in enough effort to finish.

Fedor actually shot down the guy who would otherwise be the GOAT for me with his wins over Nog.

GSP fought the best competition out of all of them. Every single one of his oppenents to this day have a winning record and have fought for a major organization. He also avenged all of his losses. He didn't finish all of his fights but he dominated his opponents for 25 min. Besides BJ (who he raped in their rematch) and Hendericks all of his W's were one sided ass beatings.
 
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