Time article on Adderol and other brain performance enhancing drugs.

[stylesbjj**]

"A 40-year-old high-level e-commerce executive in the Pacific Northwest

 

[raijin]

First-time poster here.

I was just recently prescribed Adderall by my current doctor (psychiatrist). I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger but never took anything for it. After years of bouncing from job to job, struggling with alcoholism and relationship issues, I was willing to give it a chance. I'll admit that the first few days on the dose (20mg/day) made me feel a little wired, but after that I DID start to experience similar benefits as described in the article. The best way I can put it is that I feel as if I have ample time to sort out the right from the wrong and make smarter decisions. I know that Adderall has been heavily abused on the streets and possibly over-prescribed by doctors, but for me it seems to be working.

Thanks,

 

[Kitilano]

interesting

 

[TKMaxx715]

Wasn't prescribed but have taken it and know a lot of people that do as well.

I didn't read the article, sorry. I can tell you my own experiences though it may say a lot of things that the article already mentions.

It stimulates the CNS thus helps you concentrate/stay away. The concentration part is a little tricky though because oftentime ill find myself concentrating on not the right material. I'll try to be focusing on a test but find myself 30 minutes later reading about some crazy news. Honestly, adderall feels good too. It oftentimes will feel like a little ball of energy and I do feel a little happier and a lot more pumped about what i am doing. Some subjects that i dont generally have an interest for suddenly becomes really interesting.

Sometimes my body will feel really tired though and I try to go to sleep but totally can't. Actually sometimes i would even feel like keeping my eyes open was how i would conserve the most energy. It took energy to close my eyes! I didn't really have much of an appetite while on it either.

Working out on adderall is definitely a performace enhancer as well. The CNS stimulus really gives you an extra boost in numbers.

3 things make me stay away from it for the most part though. 1. it is illegal for unprescribed. 2. People can become tolerant to the regular dosing and keep needing to amp up their supply. 3. I wonder if it deteriorates normal brain functions in any way. Will my ability to learn while sober be negatively affected by overusing this drug?

 

[JSN]

i don't need that kind of shit, i can do fine on hey look a hummingbird!

 

[B3rserk3R]

I found it a bit jittery. I used to take them sometimes before I DJed as opposed to party drugs that'd fuck up my focus.

 

[TKMaxx715]

i don't need that kind of shit, i can do fine on hey look a hummingbird!

hahaha. I was midway through rolling my eyes before i laughed.

 

[T_Money_]

Adderral is an amphetamine and will show up in a ua as such. I've taken it a couple times and it definitely works much better than say caffiene.

 

[Noth]

The article itself states that more testing is required. I can't help but feel like these kind of drugs will be our generation's tobacco.

50 years from now, our grandkids are going to be saying, "wait... you idiots routinely swallowed relatively untested chemicals, foreign to your natural physiological processes, which artificially overstimulated your cognitive abilities, and you didn't think there'd be any chronic negative side effects?"

And we were doing all this while criticizing our grandparent's for being gullible enough to willingly inhale toxic smoke under the pretense that it was 'safe'

 

[romistrub]

The article itself states that more testing is required. I can't help but feel like these kind of drugs will be our generation's tobacco.

50 years from now, our grandkids are going to be saying, "wait... you idiots routinely swallowed relatively untested chemicals, foreign to your natural physiological processes, which artificially overstimulated your cognitive abilities, and you didn't think there'd be any chronic negative side effects?"

And we were doing all this while criticizing our grandparent's for being gullible enough to willingly inhale toxic smoke under the pretense that it was 'safe'

I agree with the sentiment, but cigarettes aren't exactly "performance enhancing".

/gets back on his high horse

 

[furdog]

I have experimented with nootropics and other mood enhancing drugs of different types.

Right now I stick to 1/3rd of a 15mg nicotine patch per day, along with copious amounts of green tea. I also have 100% defatted cocoa powder tea before I work out.

This is based on many things including the legality and availability of supplements in the country I am in right now. At other times, for other reasons, and in different locales with different laws, I'll use anything from ephedrine, nasal tobacco or Swedish snus, deprenyl, piracetam, ALCAR, or a few other things. Most nootropics I don't feel much of a benefit from. Modafinil has been the best but I currently can't get it and it's expensive.

I've used adderall in the past to study but it's rather crude and I've read some stuff saying its bad for long term use. I'm a big advocate of informed tobacco or nicotine (stop smoking aid) use.

 

[whipyourasstyle]

Not one single person in college went without adderol during finals. And EVERY single person I met in grad school swore by the stuff.

I'm sure it will give us all brain cancer in 50 years.

 

[stylesbjj**]

how does these work?

 

[turbozed]

I'm a big advocate of informed tobacco or nicotine (stop smoking aid) use.

I quit smoking about a month ago after having smoked for nearly 8 years (about 5 cigarettes a day). This didn't require much of an effort actually (surprisingly) and was an unplanned result of using Swedish snus. Since picking up this cheaper, much healthier (perhaps "much less harmful" is more accurate), and more convenient nicotine substitute, I've also become a big advocate of informed tobacco use.

I'm actually somewhat miffed by numerous articles decrying oral tobacco, especially TSNA-low snus, as 'just as harmful if not more harmful than cigarettes' in a misguided attempt to promote a completely tobacco-free agenda. Smoking is ridiculously more carcinogenic and affects one of the most vital bodily organs, and the amount of disease and illness is staggering. The fact that anybody would willingly misinform regarding a possible harm-reducing (maybe even harm-eliminating) substitute for smoking is unnerving and demonstrates putting hate for tobacco use ahead of the health of fellow citizens.

 

[JinKazama]

The article itself states that more testing is required. I can't help but feel like these kind of drugs will be our generation's tobacco.

50 years from now, our grandkids are going to be saying, "wait... you idiots routinely swallowed relatively untested chemicals, foreign to your natural physiological processes, which artificially overstimulated your cognitive abilities, and you didn't think there'd be any chronic negative side effects?"

And we were doing all this while criticizing our grandparent's for being gullible enough to willingly inhale toxic smoke under the pretense that it was 'safe'

agreed

while it might or might not be good for ADHD, for a regular shmo like me

more sleep and caffeine

(not at the same time, lol)

 

[DevilEyes]

Ok, I've stayed out of this thread hoping that it would just die and be forgotten but it keeps popping up so I'm going to say something.

My opinions on taking Adderall: If you've been legitimately prescribed Adderall, then just see how it works for you, be careful while on it and do NOT exceed 30mg per day. If you have not been prescribed Adderall but you want to try it for "enhanced performance" effects, stay the fuck away from it. No bullshit, it can be VERY dangerous and can fuck up your system for years to come if abused.

If you overdo it, you are in for a world of trouble. Adderall is a Class II controlled substance for a reason.

 

[whipyourasstyle]

Ok, I've stayed out of this thread hoping that it would just die and be forgotten but it keeps popping up so I'm going to say something.

My opinions on taking Adderall: If you've been legitimately prescribed Adderall, then just see how it works for you, be careful while on it and do NOT exceed 30mg per day. If you have not been prescribed Adderall but you want to try it for "enhanced performance" effects, stay the fuck away from it. No bullshit, it can be VERY dangerous and can fuck up your system for years to come if abused.

If you overdo it, you are in for a world of trouble. Adderall is a Class II controlled substance for a reason.

Sounds about like any other drug (caffeine, marijuana, cocaine, nicotine, heroine, alcohol) Anything in excess is bad.

 

[DevilEyes]

Sounds about like any other drug (caffeine, marijuana, cocaine, nicotine, heroine, alcohol) Anything in excess is bad.

Similar but, to the best of my knowledge, most of those don't completely screw up your endocrine/adrenal system for years to come when you stop taking them. I get what you're saying though and you're right.

 

[Toad21]

I would take adderal and riddilin in college and it for sure 100% makes writing papers more enjoyable. You focus like a laser beam, and snorting ridilin is about 1/2 same high as coccaine to me.

 

[furdog]

I quit smoking about a month ago after having smoked for nearly 8 years (about 5 cigarettes a day). This didn't require much of an effort actually (surprisingly) and was an unplanned result of using Swedish snus. Since picking up this cheaper, much healthier (perhaps "much less harmful" is more accurate)...

I'd go farther and say that tobacco in its natural uncombusted form is actually a medicinal herb that can seriously improve one's life and prevent many diseases. You may be aware of the massive study on snus users which found absolutely no increased risk of oral and throat cancers compared to non-smokers. Add to the fact that nicotine has positive effects on learning and memory, and that tobacco use has been correlated with nearly the elimination of Parkinson's disease, and reduced cases of Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia, I'd have to conclude that it is a incredible nootropic and preventative medicine.

I plan on living a long time, and one thing that always bothered me is whether I would go senile or develop brain problems in my later years. Would all my diet and exercise be for nothing? Tobacco use seems like a sensible way to dramatically reduce that risk.

I prefer nasal snuff or snus, but American style smokeless tobacco has lowered its tobacco specific nitrosamine content dramatically in the last couple decades to be almost on par with snus. The risk of developing oral cancer from it in studies done since the 90s is very low, compared to non-smoking controls. Also, ST users are more likely to drink alcohol and they didn't take that into account in their studies--alcohol may be the reason for the slightly increased rate of oral cancer in that group, not their ST use.