You quipped "who asked for open borders", as if those people don't exist, and the left aren't actually pushing in that direction.
Maybe look up where your tribe actually stands on that front, before chiming in. If you're not for open borders, you should not be against anything that curbs illegal immigration. Yet the left loves sanctuary cities, hates border patrol and ICE, and wants to give more rights to illegals. Oh', but they don't want open borders. No Sir.
This is a gross oversimplification.
As
@Gutter Chris was saying, nuance, for some reason, keeps getting left out of all these political talks.
"The left" is not for open borders and is all for mass illegal immigration, and hates ICE just to hate ICE. This is not accurate at all. You guys keep making these issues black and white, and keep leaving out the details and the reasoning behind differences of opinion on policy in attempt to make "the left" look like crazy loons. It's disingenuous, and a waste of everyone's time.
The left wants comprehensive immigration law reform. They don't want kids who have spent almost their entire lives in the states to be deported to a country that they don't know. They don't want families to be broken up when the father or mother has been already living in the states for 25+ years. They want the legal immigration process to be faster and fairer.
It is YOU GUYS that need to actually look up what exactly it is you're criticizing. You're just paying attention to the twitter headlines without ever looking into the details.
NOBODY is saying get rid of ICE. PERIOD.
They want it to be either rebuilt and replaced with something else, or for its duties to be taken over by already existing government agencies. It's funny how that VERY IMPORTANT part keeps getting constantly ignored.
People keep using Ocasio as the poster child for this, but you guys don't even know her actual stance on it. She is not against border security. She wants ICE abolished because it was created post 9-11 around the same time as the Patriot Act. So the agency has been able to get away with a lot of shit without much oversight because they could use national security as a defense.
"The left" wants an agency and policies that make sense.
But Trump and his dumb followers are framing this argument as if "If you aren't for the wall, then you're for illegal immigrants"
It's fucking bullshit.