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LMFAO at the list of users viewing the thread. BigMuffler, kflo, Judoka27, Eater of Souls,..... Ronda's legions are entering formation.
When Ronda is in shape she's not in the 160s.
Lol. Who has cyborg beat that makes you confident in her ability to beat top competition herself. You act as if they kept Ronda from the top competition when 135ers always beat the 145ers. 145 is the hiding place for failed 35ers.Funny you mention Brock. I always saw the Cyborg/Ronda situation like the Fedor/Brock situation. At 3-1 Zuffa retards (Like you) were saying Brock was the Goat and how he should be ranked 1 over Fedor and said alot of the same talking points you spew. Not understanding the Ufc made a division around Ronda and made her look good while keeping her away from the real challenge and hyping her up non stop. Ronda was never a challenge for Cyborg and still isn't. You are just another dumb Hipster drone who rattles off UFC talking points without even understanding the context around it. It's whatever man, you just aren't as smart as you think you are. Later.
When she's starving herself to avoid going up to featherweight you mean.When Ronda is in shape she's not in the 160s.
Lol. You're the #1 rousey expert it seems. Tell us more about her movies.LMFAO at the list of users viewing the thread. BigMuffler, kflo, Judoka27, Eater of Souls,..... Ronda's legions are entering formation.
I don't know. They keep getting cancelled.Lol. You're the #1 rousey expert it seems. Tell us more about her movies.
Your talking pish, their beat wins are of a similar standard, and don't try to convince yourself that Cyborg wouldn't have beat all those women + Holly.If you knew what you were talking about you would realize Cyborg's wins in the last 6 years are mostly fighters with records like 5-1, 6-1, 6-2, 6-4, 8-6, and 8-7 at the time of the fights while Ronda are not mostly that way.
Your talking pish, their beat wins are of a similar standard, and don't try to convince yourself that Cyborg wouldn't have beat all those women + Holly.
I'm not even a Cyborg fan, far from it, but she is quite simply better fighter, although as I said, she's a cheat so not sure that worth much.
I don't know what the fuck you just said, but no it's not.That's about as logical as saying a school from the SEC (like Alabama or LSU for example) or PAC 12 (Say USC or Stanford) football wins are no better than a school from the MAC (like Western Michigan or Ohio U).
Wins tell you nothing in this situation. It's the losses that give you perspective and Cyborg doesn't have any relevant losses. The Patriots would go 18-0 against college teams, it doesn't mean they suck or couldn't beat the 49ers. Cyborg would beat Ronda, Holly, Meisha and Amanda. Most of us intuitively know this, people who don't want to acknowledge this spend a lot of time on Wikipedia finding stats about her opponents that they think diminish Cyborg's odds of winning these fights. It really doesn't make sense if you think about it even for a minute.
Your talking pish, their beat wins are of a similar standard, and don't try to convince yourself that Cyborg wouldn't have beat all those women + Holly.
I'm not even a Cyborg fan, far from it, but she is quite simply better fighter, although as I said, she's a cheat so not sure that worth much.
Wins tell you nothing in this situation. It's the losses that give you perspective and Cyborg doesn't have any relevant losses. The Patriots would go 18-0 against college teams, it doesn't mean they suck or couldn't beat the 49ers. Cyborg would beat Ronda, Holly, Meisha and Amanda. Most of us intuitively know this, people who don't want to acknowledge this spend a lot of time on Wikipedia finding stats about her opponents that they think diminish Cyborg's odds of winning these fights. It really doesn't make sense if you think about it even for a minute.
BigMuffler won't agree. Resume resume resume he will say.
Thing is Cyborg doesn't have relevant wins either. Coenen was a good win but even it's a bit dated, Coenen was top tier in 2010 so we don't know how she compares to the modern standard of top 5 BWs. Plus ONE top win is nothing, other "top" fighters fight multiple fellow top fighters with varying styles and we form a picture of their overall abilities based on that. No other fighter male or female gets as much credit based on "intuition" and the eye test without being proven against modern top competition as Cyborg, it seems silly to me that she's held to a different standard than EVERYONE else. She's rated mainly on her physique (plus assumptions about her physicality compared to others based on it, even though Coenen the best fighter she's fought also struggled with Carmouche's strength) and aesthetic style, nobody else has ever been considered a "GOAT" based on that lol.
It's freaking weird how differently people treat her, she's viewed like a superhuman being. It's not much different than if fans seriously believed Ngannou was the clear and indisputable best already based on his physicality, and akin to superhero worship.
1. Many fans think about a half-inch deep on any subject, including fighting.
2. Many people who are Cyborg fans are actually hate Rousey, because she has somehow ruined their lives.
3. Most people do not look at the actual data, and if they do they seem to have the inability to understand how math and statistics work.
1. Many fans think about a half-inch deep on any subject, including fighting.
2. Many people who are Cyborg fans are actually hate Rousey, because she has somehow ruined their lives.
3. Most people do not look at the actual data, and if they do they seem to have the inability to understand how math and statistics work.
Who is Rousey best win?Thing is Cyborg doesn't have relevant wins either. Coenen was a good win but even it's a bit dated, Coenen was top tier in 2010 so we don't know how she compares to the modern standard of top 5 BWs. Plus ONE top win is nothing, other "top" fighters fight multiple fellow top fighters with varying styles and we form a picture of their overall abilities based on that. No other fighter male or female gets as much credit based on "intuition" and the eye test without being proven against modern top competition as Cyborg, it seems silly to me that she's held to a different standard than EVERYONE else. She's rated mainly on her physique (plus assumptions about her physicality compared to others based on it, even though Coenen the best fighter she's fought also struggled with Carmouche's strength) and aesthetic style, nobody else has ever been considered a "GOAT" based on that lol.
It's freaking weird how differently people treat her, she's viewed like a superhuman being. It's not much different than if fans seriously believed Ngannou was the clear and indisputable best already based on his physicality, and akin to superhero worship.