this is why you don't let go during a tap.

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  1. savemgs

    savemgs Black Belt

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    okay guys because we have completely forgot mma history. why don't you just take a look at this gif. this is why you don't let go during a tap. its the referees job to physically remove you.
    Any real fan remembers this gif.
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  2. KickWith3rdLeg

    KickWith3rdLeg You smoke this **** to escape reality?

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    That was just a bad stoppage by BJM. totally different situation. That feint one tap on the knee was probably what caused the confusion.
     
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    savemgs Black Belt

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    the fight was not stopped. and it got restarted. by the way it just happened to be for the UFC middleweight championship.
     
  4. NameForRent

    NameForRent White Belt

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    When the ref is beating on you to stop, you stop. You don't hold and crank more.

    Stupid thread is stupid.
     
  5. IndyCovaHart

    IndyCovaHart Gold Belt

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    Bustamante was a the gentleman of the sport.

    He tapped that bitch twice in one fight. Lol
     
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    Palhares takes this to the extreme though. The fighter could be screaming for his life and tapping like a tambourine solo and Palhares will still hold it a second or two after the ref tries to pry him off.
     
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    Let's hear it from the man in the gif himself. Toquinho's former coach, the great Bustamante.


    Source:http://www.mmamania.com/2013/10/13/...s-rousimar-palhares-injured-training-partners

    If Busta isn't defending him anymore, then I'm not either. Shields said he was stupid or evil, but there is a third alternative:

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    Cazador Gold Belt

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    ^^When the man that brought him into MMA is saying that, it puts thing into perspective.

    I remember that article, and before I read it my initial thought was that the reason he holds the sub the way he does, was because his mater taught him to do so, considering what he went through during his fighting career, I realized it wasn't the case.
     
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    Cro Cop Is Back Red Belt

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    It's Mazzaggati's fault
     
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    sangreporsangre Gold Belt

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    Yea guys on here defending Toquinho always reference that fight, conveniently forgetting that Bustamante actually kicked him out of his gym for hurting his training partners.
     
  11. HHJ

    HHJ Fedor Supremacist

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    mazagatti is the absolute last person who should ref a palhares fight,considering him seeming to ignore the vanilla gorillas attempt to tap to mir for a cool 30 seconds...


    anyway if palhares didnt fucking hold onto subs too long we wouldnt even need to have this conversation about which refs should be in his fights.
     
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    Rvd Slmr Silver Belt

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    It happened once in over a thousand UFC fights and Bustamante subbed him anyway.
     
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    Slick_36 Bad Man from Borger, Texas

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    Not to mention the sport has come a long way since then and situations like that don't happen anymore. At least outside the possible freak occurrence.

    I used to love Palhares, he was so fucking exciting, he made Jiu Jitsu more terrifying than any knock out artist. After seeing him break when things would go his way, use underhanded tactics, and hold submission after submission for too long, I just can't support him. I will always love to see him fight those brave enough, but my days of wishing for his success are gone. He will always be a "what if?".
     
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    Iroh The Dragon of the West Platinum Member

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    Wut? Big John did try to physically remove him... He didn't let go before that.
     
  15. HockeyBjj

    HockeyBjj Putting on the foil

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    Thanks for sharing. I'd always wondered if it was just an in cage thing, or if he was hurting guys in the gym too. Now that I know he is, no doubt about it he needs to never be allowed to fight again.
     
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    The AC's may go that way. He may be fighting in 1C soon, good test for Askren.
     
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    EndlessCritic Gold Belt

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    BJ Penn held on to the choke against Pulver way longer than any of Palhares' fights.
     
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    BisexualMMA Don't Put My Name in the Name of Steroids!

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    Yeah, but with a choke, you fall asleep and wake up feeling a little silly. With Rousimar, you can be looking at months away from training and maybe reconstructive knee surgery.

    Obviously you should let go of a choke as well, but between going lights out for a few seconds and having my knee blown out after I've tapped, I know which one I would choose.
     
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    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Mazzagatti had a bad night, but had he ended the fight as a DQ loss for Palhares, how would have ended any better for Rousimar?

    Blaming Palhares' problems on anyone but himself is ridiculous.
     
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    This.
     

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