This is why UFC fighters who focus on Karate lose

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  1. Irresponsible Dad

    Irresponsible Dad Blue Belt Platinum Member

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    They forget to sweep teh leg!
     
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    Yeah, some 10-year old fights prove that Machida, Pettis, Wonderboy, etc. would never have any success in the UFC.
     
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    I dont think anyone says that it's impossible to have success with karate/TKD. Just that it's not ideal. Theres better stuff out there for MMA.
     
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    Azure Sherdogology PhD.

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    Maybe the problem is kids getting promoted to BB at 9-11..Or maybe at 9-11 this kid is physically way more developed than the kids he is competing with.
     
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    Not necessarily. Lyoto used it very well and I don't think he would've done any better if he focused on muay thai or something else. He was a small LHW who competed with the best, and no style would've helped him beat a monster like Jon Jones. Of course traditional martial artists need cross-training, too. No is saying pure karate will help you win a belt.
     
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    at the high levels not everyone is going to have the discipline, toughness and skills to negate that karate style.

    I think Raymond Daniels - who I believe is not in mma - will do better than wonderboy (age might be a factor though) as he does have experience in Glory and won't ever fight anyone in MMA the caliber of Holzken or Valtellini.
     
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    Daniels is 39 and we have no idea if he has any ground game or TDD. He missed his chance in MMA. For the record, I think he beat Wonderboy in some type of karate or kickboxing event many years ago., but Wonderboy properly cross-trained for MMA much earlier. Daniels showed no grappling ability at all in his first (and only other) MMA fight that was like 11 years ago.
     
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    Daniels just HL reeled some bum in the Bellator cage in a MMA fight btw....
     
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    What martial art is the best for striking in MMA in your opinion? Not counting Muay Thai.

    Judo and BJJ to me obviously are the most useful, but one is not going far without striking in MMA for a long time now. Not like when the Gracie's were top guys.
     
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    tonni 2019 Snitch of the Year

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    Blackbelts and they're 10 year olds? You Americans.
     
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    tonni 2019 Snitch of the Year

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    TMA has long been a money racket based on belt tests. Very few TMA “dojos” are legit, and when you can find a legit instructor, its usually 1:1 or small group, not the shit you see in the thousands of TKD or Karate dojos littering strip malls since the 70s. FFS Karate Kid informed everyone of this in 1984.
     
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    too soon
     

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