This autistic student asked for a ‘fist bump’ and a selfie. He got two Title IX investigations.

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Does this seem like a bad guy? Does this kid deserve to have his life ruined? I have no doubt this kid is extremely awkward and maybe this girl felt a little uncomfortable because the guy is autistic and does not know how to act like the rest of this. At what point did that turn into a reason to ruin a young man's life?



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A “fist bump” and a selfie may have ended Marcus Knight’s educational career right as it started.

The student, who has autism, cerebral palsy and a shunt to relieve fluid pressure on his brain, was not allowed to defend himself against allegations in two Title IX investigations this past fall, his mother told The College Fix.

Aurora Knight has raised more than half of the money to cover legal fees through a GoFundMe campaign as she challenges the sexual-misconduct findings on her son’s record.

Though Saddleback College lifted Marcus’s suspension a day before a hearing last month, it has thus far refused to remove the findings from his record, Aurora wrote in an update to the campaign Wednesday.

Her son (below) has limited expressive language capabilities and cannot negotiate social situations as easily as others, she told The College Fix.

Though he receives academic accommodations for his disabilities, he was not offered accommodations in the Title IX process, Aurora wrote in an email. “When we look at individuals with limited social skills, we cannot expect that they responded the same way as a typical individual.”

Former Drake University trustee Thomas Rossley, whose learning-disabled son is suing the university for a similar ordeal, told The Fix in a phone interview that Marcus’s case “goes to the whole problem with disability issues with Title IX.”

“Most schools don’t even let the students know how to ask for accommodations within a disciplinary process,” said Rossley, whose own “Title IX retaliation” claims against Drake were dismissed in court last month.

“So these students don’t know that they can even get accommodations within the disciplinary process,” whether the accused student or the accusing student, he said.

MORE: Rossleys sue after female sexually assaults son, university fires father



‘Stop calling it inappropriate. He’s just trying to make a friend’

Aurora Knight laid out her narrative of the allegations in a phone interview with The Fix.

The first incident occurred in the first week of September when Marcus was in the Student Services office and asked a female student working there if he could “fist bump” her. She agreed but soon filed a Title IX complaint.

The next week Aurora and Marcus were asked to meet with the school’s Disabled Students Programs and Services coordinator, who allegedly called the fist bump “inappropriate behavior.” Aurora told The Fix that Marcus did not “bump” anything other than the female’s knuckles. (The Fix has reached the coordinator but that person has not been available for a phone interview as of Thursday night.)

His mother told the coordinator that Marcus had been at the office seeking campus employment. The official allegedly said that would be “totally pointless” because Marcus was “obviously incapable” and should be taking adult disability classes instead of college classes.

Though the coordinator said the incident would not go on her son’s record if the behavior stopped, according to Aurora, the mother became aggravated by the description of a consensual fist bump as “inappropriate.”

MORE: Judge approves Rossley Jr. suit against Drake

She asked the coordinator “Did he touch her? Did he hug her? Did he follow her? Did he try to get her phone number? Did he expose himself?” When the coordinator allegedly said no to each, Aurora said she responded: “Then stop calling it inappropriate. He’s just trying to make a friend.”

Aurora explained to Marcus that the female student did not want to be his friend, and he agreed not to interact with her anymore.

A month later, an official who served as both vice president of student services and Title IX coordinator called the Knights into another meeting – with police present – because the female student had reported the incident as sexual harassment, according to Aurora. This official did not respond to a query from The Fix.

The student had changed her story to say Marcus hugged her, sat very close to her, grabbed her with one hand, and with the other tried to get her hands onto his upper thighs. Aurora said that did not seem physically possible, given that the female student had been sitting behind the counter. Marcus acted out what he did – a two-handed fist bump – at that meeting.

Ordered to bring a ‘personal student assistant’

Aurora and her son were never allowed to formally defend him throughout this process, and didn’t hear back from the school between meetings except for an email from the coordinator recommending life-skills classes for Marcus, the mother told The Fix.

College staff present at the October meeting had Marcus sign an informal resolution of sexual harassment and told him not to have contact with the female student, according to Aurora.

Because of his autism, Marcus did not understand that he could not apologize to the student in person. When he approached her in the cafeteria, “everybody was pointing at him” because the female student “had been telling everybody he was weird or dangerous,” Aurora said.

Though he left the cafeteria before reaching the student, she filed another complaint against Marcus, his mother said. When Aurora complained that the student was spreading around rumors about Marcus, Aurora said an official told her in so many words that “gossiping was not against the law.”

MORE: Americans with Disabilities Act may cover retaliation against Rossley Sr.

For the first time in his life, Marcus was ordered to bring a “personal student assistant” with him to classes. Even though Aurora was paying this assistant, sometimes the person would suddenly cancel and Aurora would either have to leave work to attend class with her son or he could not go, Aurora said.

Marcus racked up too many absences to pass his English class last fall and only passed another with a D, his mother told The Fix. She said an administrator told her in the spring that he should be put on academic probation, even though his grade-point average did not merit it.

“My son works very hard, very, very hard,” Aurora said over the phone:

He’s a hard-working kid. He’s aware of his limitations. That’s why he works harder. ‘Cause he wants to show people that he can do it. … Yes, he has so many disadvantages, but look how many kids with no disadvantage, are no[t] willing to work as hard as he is. He just wants to show like he’s like everybody else. He just wants to make friends.


‘Manufactured issues’ that sent him to the ER

The second incident occurred in October. (Aurora was not sure whether it happened before or after the October meeting about the first incident.)

Marcus was involved with the college’s musical theater program, and wanted to ask a female student in the program if he could take a selfie with her. According to Aurora, her son’s assistant approved him asking the question, and the female student said yes.

Aurora said that her son took two “burst pictures,” which take 100 photos with each tap of the button. She provided The Fix a copy of one of the photos. It shows Marcus halfway out of the frame, with his arm extended and his hand behind the female student’s head. She’s seated and smiling.

He was touching her shoulder with the tips of his fingers, according to Aurora. “Marcus has [cerebral palsy] on his left side. When he extend his arm, his finger automatically get [sic] hard. It’s a neurologic thing,” she said. “But it was not grabbing. It’s just how he is.”

MORE: Title IX doesn’t protect Rossley Sr. from retaliation, judge rules

According to a charge letter dated Dec. 1, the student reported the incident as sexual harassment, claiming that Marcus “forcefully placed [his] hand on her shoulder while taking a selfie with her.” The Title IX coordinator also said the student accused Marcus of having “followed her around” in October and taking “over 300 unauthorized pictures of her.”

In a response letter, Aurora listed several “corrections” to the allegations, saying Marcus did not take pictures “of” the student but “with” and “authorized by” her, that one time. She explained the burst function on the camera and said he accidentally turned it on. His disability made it “physically impossible” to do what the student claimed, Aurora said.

The prior investigation resulted in Marcus “struggling with anxiety and depression” and spending a night in the emergency room because of stress headaches, she wrote. She called the allegations “manufactured issues.”

18 character witnesses

When the Knights were called into another meeting with the Title IX coordinator and the police, they weren’t allowed to present evidence, Aurora told The Fix. The coordinator allegedly ordered Marcus to delete the pictures on his phone, and objected to Aurora doing it for him, though she had power of attorney.

Asked by The Fix what rationale the official gave for deleting them, and whether it was put in writing, Aurora repeated that the official said to delete them. The college did not answer this factual question when asked by The Fix.

Aurora received a letter March 28 informing her that Marcus was found responsible and suspended, and she appealed days later. She told The Fix none of their evidence had been taken into consideration.

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With a hearing date set for June 5, Aurora looked for pro bono representation but couldn’t find any. “I started checking for lawyers, but, you know, money. I’m a single mother and it’s not easy,” she told The Fix. With the funds raised through GoFundMe and a loan, she was able to pay a lawyer’s retainer.

Aurora said she and Marcus planned to bring 18 character witnesses to the hearing, even though she had to pay for the lawyer’s services with each. The college canceled it the day before and removed the suspension, leaving the sexual-misconduct findings in his record and requiring his assistant to accompany him on campus.

The college said it would give her an explanatory letter to alleviate the effect on his record, but Aurora said she has yet to receive it: “Marcus is now confused and scared, knowing that people do not understand him at all.”

‘Disproportionate amount’ with disabilities in Title IX cases

“Due to student confidentiality requirements I’m unable to comment on this specific matter,” Jennie McCue, director of marketing and communications at Saddleback College, told The Fixwhen asked for the college’s side.

“However, when a complaint is filed, the college provides both the complaining and responding parties an opportunity to tell their sides of the story, and addresses the complaint according to evidence,” she wrote in an email.

The procedures for student conduct violations vary depending on the evidence and possible discipline, though the evidence standard is preponderance, McCue said.

“In general,” not commenting on any case, a “college discipline officer” will ask a student under investigation to respond to allegations, and give the student written notice if discipline is to be issued.

For suspension and expulsion, the student can appeal to a hearing panel, and then to the college president. For expulsion, the student can appeal the president’s decision to the board of trustees, McCue said.

Rossley, whose son went through a similar Title IX proceeding, told The Fix that students like his son and Marcus need advocates in a Title IX hearing for it to be just.

“There’s also a disproportionate amount of students that have disabilities, students that are a minority (Marcus being one and my son being one), students who are foreign getting caught up in these tribunals,” Rossley said. (Marcus is half-black and Rossley’s son is Latino.)

But the former trustee thinks that the tendency of schools to not provide accommodations for students with disabilities may be changing.

Rossley pointed to a white paper issued in March 2017 by higher education insurance provider United Educators. It explained the importance of accommodating disabilities in Title IX and making the availability of accommodations clear to students involved.
 
That's retarded. Men are under attack on campus.

So a strong, confident women who thinks women are just as capable as men filed an official complaint because a mentally challenged boy asked her to do a fist bump? She is so strong and brave. She is proving that women can do anything a man can do!

Where did logic and reason go? Why did colleges go insane and why are the adults not fixing this? She should have been laughed at and told to fuck off when she filed a complaint. A fist bump request is not sexual harassment.
 
It sounds about right for the #metoo era that we're in.
 
Some people are absolutely desperate to ascribe themselves victimhood status.

For whatever reason, victimhood has now become social currency in the 21st century.

I also suspect it has something to do with the fact that most people desire to feel the emotion of righteous indignation. Some will even go as far as to manufacture reasons to experience righteous indignation.
 
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You can thank your local daddy issue riddled feminist for that.
 
This bullshit is spreading to the workplace as well. A guy at my work got put on warning for sexual harassment because he winked at a girl. This bitch reported him because he winked at her in the cafeteria.

I feel like it is just a way for weak and pathetic people to feel power. To abuse an unfair system to hurt people because they are insecure cunts who hate themselves.
 
This bullshit is spreading to the workplace as well. A guy at my work got put on warning for sexual harassment because he winked at a girl. This bitch reported him because he winked at her in the cafeteria.

I feel like it is just a way for weak and pathetic people to feel power. To abuse an unfair system to hurt people because they are insecure cunts who hate themselves.
I'm lucky that I'm the only male (not counting the office boss) in the office but the age difference is so much all the female coworkers I have treat me like I'm their kid.
 
This bullshit is spreading to the workplace as well. A guy at my work got put on warning for sexual harassment because he winked at a girl. This bitch reported him because he winked at her in the cafeteria.

I feel like it is just a way for weak and pathetic people to feel power. To abuse an unfair system to hurt people because they are insecure cunts who hate themselves.
He should have been charged with rape.
 
Wow, way to take a kid, who clearly has medical problems that make social situations incredibly difficult, and make his life even harder with this bullshit.
 
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My first impression is that I highly, highly doubt that this is all there is to the story.

EDIT: But, to be sure, there needs to be something done by state government and/or the federal government to regulate these college and high school kangaroo courts. It's far too easy to ruin someone's life through the disciplinary processes of the education system, where the burdens of proof and the substantive due process is much lower.
 
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This is a weird story where I am hesitant to comment. I feel like these stories are the ones where only people who live and work on the campus, and regularly interact with the accused in question, tend to have a grip on the nuanced reality.
 
My first impression is that I highly, highly doubt that this is all there is to the story.

EDIT: But, to be sure, there needs to be something done by state government and/or the federal government to regulate these college and high school kangaroo courts. It's far too easy to ruin someone's life through the disciplinary processes of the education system, where the burdens of proof and the substantive due process is much lower.
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So is the guy too retarded for a real job, or is he functional enough to know if he's sexually harassing someone? Can't fucking be both. This is infuriating.

And let's say this was a "normal" guy who hit on someone who didn't want to be hit on. Why in the fuck can't a woman just find that guy annoying or creepy and complain to her friends about him?? Why does it always go straight to ruining a life now? Why does the entire country need to hear about it? Just stay away from him if he's so terrible.
 
That's retarded. Men are under attack on campus.

So a strong, confident women who thinks women are just as capable as men filed an official complaint because a mentally challenged boy asked her to do a fist bump? She is so strong and brave. She is proving that women can do anything a man can do!

Where did logic and reason go? Why did colleges go insane and why are the adults not fixing this? She should have been laughed at and told to fuck off when she filed a complaint. A fist bump request is not sexual harassment.

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Seriously though if this incident is just about a fist bump then this has all the signs of victimhood. There is no logic and reason. There has to be something else though even these crazy feminists can’t get worked up over a simple fist bump....we’ll i think anyways
 
Another thing I hate is that schools have all these disability accommodations that people that don't really have problems can take advantage of. However, the people with real disabilities tend to not be savvy enough to take advantage of them because the schools don't make it a priority to inform their disabled students about what is available.

Compare this woman. She got accommodations all throughout law school for her anxiety and panic attacks and the fact and yes she claims this is a real disability for being a slow reader.. I.e. 50% more time on all tests and a private testing area.. She then gets denied a accommodation from the NY bar. Fails the bar twice and then finally gets her accommodation on the third try and is allowed to pass. By the way she is suing the NY bar for not giving her the accomdation the first two time. She lost her job because she could not pass and is seeking damages
https://lawandcrime.com/uncategoriz...e-failed-bar-exam-and-lost-160k-per-year-job/

daily caller has a better article here
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/16/harvard-grad-sues-over-failed-bar-exam/

This is someone who milked the system to get through. Being a slow reader is not a disability. Or at least one we should recognize.
This autistic kid could be the rain man for all we know and even if he is not he deserves some compassion. Not to have his life ruined by some women who is just trying to get attention.
 
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My first impression is that I highly, highly doubt that this is all there is to the story.

EDIT: But, to be sure, there needs to be something done by state government and/or the federal government to regulate these college and high school kangaroo courts. It's far too easy to ruin someone's life through the disciplinary processes of the education system, where the burdens of proof and the substantive due process is much lower.

And this is how I win you over Trots. As you can tell this young man is a person of color. Could it be that this metoo movement is in part a way to perpetuate America's ugly history of white women wrongfully accusing black men of misconduct?
 
Another thing I hate is that schools have all these disability accommodations that people that don't really have problems can take advantage of. However, the people with real disabilities tend to not be savvy enough to take advantage of them because the schools don't make it a priority to inform their disabled students about what is available.

Compare this woman. She got accommodations all throughout law school for her anxiety and panic attacks and the fact and yes she claims this is a real disability for being a slow reader.. I.e. 50% more time on all tests and a private testing area.. She then gets denied a accommodation from the NY bar. Fails the bar twice and then finally gets her accommodation on the third try and is allowed to pass.
https://lawandcrime.com/uncategoriz...e-failed-bar-exam-and-lost-160k-per-year-job/

daily caller has a better article here
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/16/harvard-grad-sues-over-failed-bar-exam/

This is someone who milked the system to get through. Being a slow reader is not a disability. Or at least one we should recognize.
This autistic kid could be the rain man for all we know and even if he is not he deserves some compassion. Not to have his life ruined by some women who is just trying to get attention.
Oh that pisses me right the fuck off.

Did she get an extra day on the LSAT then?
 
Something isn't adding up. Need more info.
 
And this is how I win you over Trots.

Search for posts including "kangaroo courts" by me. I've been critical of his phenomenon for some time. The Obama administration did a little bit to raise to standards of due process in colleges, but there still isn't nearly enough oversight to guarantee it: and even when there is, it's almost never timely.

As you can tell this young man is a person of color. Could it be that this metoo movement is in part a way to perpetuate America's ugly history of white women wrongfully accusing black men of misconduct?

No. I have never gotten that impression at all (I don't see black men bearing a disproportionate brunt of the allegations), and his being a POC didn't enter my mind.
 
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