There was nothing questionable about the Lawler/Koscheck stoppage

[MadHorse]

Koscheck was out. His eyes got glassy, he wasn't protecting himself and Lawler was landing his shots. Herb Dean gave him all the time he needed.

The only reason this stoppage is controversial is because of Rogan's comments. Have some confidence in your eyes and don't take everything he says for a fact.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Funny how you're the only one that could tell his eyes were glassy.

 

[Minnja]

Honestly the way Kos reacted while getting punched I thought it was a good stoppage, but then when it was stopped he looked perfectly fine. I have no idea if he went out momentarily or what, but at the moment Herb stopped the fight I thought it was fair. The way Kos just crumpled to his side made it look like he was out of it and it didn't help that he wasn't protecting his face

 

[Furious George]

He's not bettering his position, he's not attempting to defend himself. Clear TKO.

 

[Tibbles]

Well I think the problem is that there isn't much consistency. For example, in Barry vs Kongo, Kongo was allowed to take a huge number of shots and was able to recover and win the fight whereas Herb stopped this fight far more quickly when Koscheck was hurt.

 

[Furious George]

Well I think the problem is that there isn't much consistency. For example, in Barry vs Kongo, Kongo was allowed to take a huge number of shots and was able to recover and win the fight whereas Herb stopped this fight far more quickly when Koscheck was hurt.

Herb didn't referee Barry vs Kongo. That was Dan "king of letting fights go on too fucking long" Miragliotta.

 

[RaginCajun]

Josh "everytime I lose its a bad stoppage" Koshcheck

 

[Andrewwawa]

i thought it was a good stoppage but it was weird how kos seemed not just okay but unfazed by those punches as soon as it was stopped

 

[ZappBrannigan]

it looked a tad early. Few more seconds would have been a better call.

 

[Protectandserve]

I usually think it is a good stoppage when the one guy is doing a good imitation of bouncing a basketball off the canvas with the other dude's head.

 

[Karelinator]

Well I think the problem is that there isn't much consistency. For example, in Barry vs Kongo, Kongo was allowed to take a huge number of shots and was able to recover and win the fight whereas Herb stopped this fight far more quickly when Koscheck was hurt.

There's nothing similar between those fights, so I don't see any inconsistency.

Kongo was moving frantically entire time, he was rocked damn badly, but he was trying to do something.

Koscheck was lying there and staring at the mat, without trying to do anything at all. He could only eat some more punches.

So I don't get this comparison.

 

[RaginCajun]

i thought it was a good stoppage but it was weird how kos seemed not just okay but unfazed by those punches as soon as it was stopped

true but Kos knows as well as anyone if your in that position taking those kind of shots the fight is getting stopped

 

[JustBleed]

Rogan has a tendency to rob fighters glory during their deserved victories. Robbier/Kos was just one example, another huge one was Wandy/Cung.

 

[fluxdispatcher]

Kos didn't seem his usual self leading up to this fight. Can't believe he's 35.

 

[Chaelsbackfist**]

Unusual KO imo.

Kos seemed to just stay facing down when Lawlor got back up? Anyone else think that?

Like he froze or something, I dunno. But it did seem a tad early to me, I'd have gave him 2 or 3 more shots to see if he could get shit moving.

 

[Tibbles]

There's nothing similar between those fights, so I don't see any inconsistency.

Kongo was moving frantically entire time, he was rocked damn badly, but he was trying to do something.

Koscheck was lying there and staring at the mat, without trying to do anything at all. He could only eat some more punches.

So I don't get this comparison.

Guess that was a bad example, was just the first thing that came to mind. Carwin vs Brock or Brock vs Mir 2 are better examples of a fighter being allowed to take a lot of punishment without responding.

 

[Appylion]

I feel it was a good stoppage.

 

[LewLew]

He's not bettering his position, he's not attempting to defend himself. Clear TKO.

Getting thumped over and over again doesnt count as defending yourself just because you aren't unconscious. Goddamn there are some bloodthirsty motherfuckers around here.

 

[IronMaidenfan#1]

Perfect stoppage for me, Koscheck looked really confused and didn't even try to stop some of those punches. Not intelligently defending = fight stopped.

 

[mfgillia]

It turned out to be a tad bit early. The stoppage looked okay live but then on the slo mo replay it looked early. Plus Koscheck was obviously fine and not in any way knocked out.

Still though, it was up to him to defend himself and he didn't do much of anything.