There should be new law specifying the UFC contract

[kyokugen86]

This is why I prefer PFL's mma playoff tournament style, I mean no can can held hostage of the belt once the champion is injured.

Take a look how Dominick Cruz on hostaged the bantamweight division.

 

[Black Paladin]

Fighters should be allowed to sign only 1 fight contract for every fight,

It will give them the ability to continue fighting for the promotion or go elsewhere after each fight without a problem.

That wouldn't be fair to the promotion.

 

[sutherland]

This thread is ill-conceived, poorly informed drivel, tbh. Fighters know what they are signing off on, they have managers and lawyers, and to compare these contracts to slavery is so fucking stupid I can't even process it. There is a lot that goes into those contracts you obviously don't know about, and even if you had one of them in front of you, I doubt you would be able to make anything out from the text.

But you will??? Yes they have a manager with them, buy time and time again the problem rears its ugly head. To have GSP/Jones locked in until they fight off the contact is crazy. Also the contract should work both ways, the fighter should be able to hold the UFC accountable on there end to. Why can the UFC cut a fighter at the drops of a hat but the fighter can't do the same????

 

[ejlarson249]

UFC makes slaves from their fighters, once they sign contract, they can´t fight anywhere else, until they cut them or contract is finished. There should be also the time expiration, like you can´t sign contract which would have effect longer than 2 years. For example the Jones or GSP thing, they basically have 0 leverage in negotiation with UFC.
In other sports you also sign for seasons/time not for matches..
Commission / law change/ fighter union would fix that.

Imagine how dumb every single fighter is. They know every single issue, and they sign up willingly anyway.

 

[sutherland]

If you sign on for, let's say, 2 years in another sport, you have to actually play those years. If you decide to sit out for a year and not play, it doesn't count towards one of your years. So if you sign a 2 year contract, play the first year, and then just decide not to play the 2nd year, your 2 years are not up. You don't become a free agent and just get to go anywhere you want, you still need to play another season with the team you signed a 2 year contract for.

Yes but that team can't just cut you. They would have to pay out your contact. You're comparing apples and oranges

 

[crabmeat]

Ali Act needs to apply to MMA...it makes no sense why it doesnt.



We need to pressure the biden administration.

I like when the government gets involved. Especially with boring sports such as baseball. You get to hear about dude's applying cream on each other in congress. Reps are falling asleep. Oldass Bernie is wide awake because he's priming himself to showcase his crazy. I wish he would have had dialogue with Sosa. That would have been great.

 

[HHJ]

That wouldn't be fair to the promotion.

Exactly. Why should a promotion invest in someone who may never return?

 

[JumJum]

Ali Act needs to apply to MMA...it makes no sense why it doesnt.



We need to pressure the biden administration.

So you want to kill MMA also? Ali act is exactly the reason that boxing has so much corruption and the best fighters rarely fight each other. This is what always happens with over regulation and socialism. Union might be the best solution.

 

[JumJum]

This is why I prefer PFL's mma playoff tournament style, I mean no can can held hostage of the belt once the champion is injured.


Take a look how Dominick Cruz on hostaged the bantamweight division.

Well this is why interim exists

 

[KillaZs]

Fighters should be allowed to sign only 1 fight contract for every fight,

It will give them the ability to continue fighting for the promotion or go elsewhere after each fight without a problem.

That wouldn´t work well, why would UFC promote fighters if they aren´t sure if they will continue in UFC.
I think best variant is the 1,5 - 2 years contract rule - You can cancel the contract 1,5 year after first fight date.

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

UFC makes slaves from their fighters, once they sign contract, they can´t fight anywhere else, until they cut them or contract is finished. There should be also the time expiration, like you can´t sign contract which would have effect longer than 2 years. For example the Jones or GSP thing, they basically have 0 leverage in negotiation with UFC.
In other sports you also sign for seasons/time not for matches..
Commission / law change/ fighter union would fix that.

Do you even know what you are talking about? UFC contracts aren’t that long.




The original terms of UFC contracts tend to be quite short. While 100% of the promotion’s PAR agreements contain exclusivity provisions, a substantial majority of them (82.5%) have a duration of two years or less, with the most common contract length coming in at 20 months (35.5%).

The next two most frequent contract lengths are a year and a half (20.9%) and one year (18.4%). After that, no single contract length occurs more than 5% of the time.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...the-ufcs-top-secret-fighter-contract.amp.html

 

[KillaZs]

Do you even know what you are talking about? UFC contracts aren’t that long.

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The original terms of UFC contracts tend to be quite short. While 100% of the promotion’s PAR agreements contain exclusivity provisions, a substantial majority of them (82.5%) have a duration of two years or less, with the most common contract length coming in at 20 months (35.5%).

The next two most frequent contract lengths are a year and a half (20.9%) and one year (18.4%). After that, no single contract length occurs more than 5% of the time.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndic...the-ufcs-top-secret-fighter-contract.amp.html

Dude, of course they run out of contract if they fight - they don´t have other options, but if you don´t fight and you are unactive like Jones/GSP and don´t want to compete anymore in UFC? You are trapped then.
If there was this rule for example you had 4 fight contract yep? You finished 2 fight and you still have 2 fights left, if there was the 1,5 year contract termination you would get some leverage in negotiating your next pay, otherwise you would say - ok don´t give me fight Im gonna wait 7 months more and go to another organisation. Do you see the difference? Don´t be stupid.

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

Dude, of course they run out of contract if they fight - they don´t have other options, but if you don´t fight and you are unactive like Jones/GSP and don´t want to compete anymore in UFC? You are trapped then.
If there was this rule for example you had 4 fight contract yep? You finished 2 fight and you still have 2 fights left, if there was the 1,5 year contract termination you would get some leverage in negotiating your next pay, otherwise you would say - ok don´t give me fight Im gonna wait 7 months more and go to another organisation. Do you see the difference? Don´t be stupid.

It already does. Below is an except from a leaked UFC contract


ARTICLE IV
TERM

4.1 The duration of the Promotional Rights provided herein (the "Term") shall commence on the Effective Date and end on the earlier of (i) forty (40) months after the first bout promoted by ZUFFA involving Fighter under this Agreement; or (ii) the date on which Fighter has participated in at least eight (8) Bouts promoted by ZUFFA pursuant to this Agreement (the "Termination Date"), unless terminated sooner or extended further pursuant to the provisions of this Agreement.

 

[KillaZs]

It already does. Below is an except from a leaked UFC contract


ARTICLE IV
TERM

4.1 The duration of the Promotional Rights provided herein (the "Term") shall commence on the Effective Date and end on the earlier of (i) forty (40) months after the first bout promoted by ZUFFA involving Fighter under this Agreement; or (ii) the date on which Fighter has participated in at least eight (8) Bouts promoted by ZUFFA pursuant to this Agreement (the "Termination Date"), unless terminated sooner or extended further pursuant to the provisions of this Agreement.

40 months is nearly 3,5 years thats too long.
1,5 year is more fair.
Not even mentioning that the contracts are a lot of times updated without finishing previous contract - so they trap you for another 4 fights for example.

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

40 months is nearly 3,5 years thats too long.
1,5 year is more fair.

This is because this was Eddie Alazrez’s contract. He is bigger star so just contract was longer from a large sum of money

But is you go back to my original post, you will see that the overwhelming majority of UFC fighters are on an 18-20 month contract

 

[KillaZs]

This is because this was Eddie Alazrez’s contract. He is bigger star so just contract was longer from a large sum of money

But is you go back to my original post, you will see that the overwhelming majority of UFC fighters are on an 18 month contract

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Anyway 40 months is too much for any fighter. Its 40 months since GSP last fight against Bisping, so why he cannot fight then?
There should be fixed one contract lenght - 18 months and all would be fine.

 

[ralek4grammy]

Aren't most professional sports contract like this?

Though I do agree on some sort of time limit or number of fights, whichever comes first. Of course, fighter pay is the biggest issue that needs to be addressed. Can't have top fighters working a second job to help cover living expenses

Moustach'd Stipe brandishing a weapon?! This stuff is what nightmares are made out of.

The entire Hellraiser series is tame compared to this...

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

Anyway 40 months is too much for any fighter. Its 40 months since GSP last fight against Bisping, so why he cannot fight then?

Because you have to be reasonably active for the contract to expire. You can’t just sit out because the courts will inpret that as the fighter trying abandon their end of the agreement.

There should be fixed one contract lenght - 18 months and all would be fine.

Why? I feel like you are throwing a random number that “feels right”. Do you have research, legal precedence, or comparable numbers from similar fields that led you to arrive at this number?


UFC contracts already are shorter than the contracts in any other sport

 

[KillaZs]

Because you have to be reasonably active for the contract to expire. You can’t just sit out because the courts will inpret that as the fighter trying abandon their end of the agreement.




Why? I feel like you are throwing a random number that “feels right”. Do you have research, legal precedence, or comparable numbers from similar fields that led you to arrive at this number?


UFC contracts already are shorter than the contracts in any other sport

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In the sports you mentioned is stable pay, in UFC your situation changes from fight to fight. You can´t compare that.

 

[You Will Vote For Dreyga]

In the sports you mentioned is stable pay, in UFC your situation changes from fight to fight. You can´t compare that.

Huh? I’m not exactly sure what you mean here. UFC pay is stable. All the pay for the duration of you contract has already been agreed upon before the fighters signed. The same way all the pay a football player is agreed upon before the season.