There Is No Such Thing As "A Round Should Have Been Stopped"

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  1. Blackjack

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    Sometimes now a man doesn't tap just because he's taking punishment and still some people argue that the round should be stopped anyway. Brock vs Carwin is a good example in round one. I prefer the phlosophy behind the early UFCs which was a man has the right to decide when to say he has had enough. Under that philosophy there is no such thing as a round "should have been stopped." A round should only be stopped when the fighter taps or is unconscious. Lesnar proved that philosophy to be superior because despite some people saying it should have been stopped, he didn't tap because he knew he was still alright and still had enough left to win and he did. The proof is in the pudding. If a man says "don't stop this because I can still win" and then he proves himself right by winning, you can't argue against that.

    The same philosophy dictates that there is no such thing as a man not deserving a title shot even though he beat the champion. If he beats the champion than the former champion doesn;t deserve to still be champ when there's a new guy that can beat him and did. People said Brock didn;t deserve his shot against Couture. Well, he beat Couture, so how could he have not deserved the shot when he proved he could beat the champion? The champion is supposed to be the best. If someone proves he can beat the champ, then that man deserves to be the new champion. Otherwise the champion isn't the best fighter in his division.
     
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    Coconut Joe Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Go watch Lesnar perform in scripted WWE matches. Where you can pretend he's actually beating those clowns.
     
  3. warriorscommando

    warriorscommando I will always protect you

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    TS likes his fighters with brain damage.

    TS doesn't know you can be suffering permanent physical including brain damage while not being technically knocked out. It's a great idea for somebody to be knocking your brain about but it's too stupid to switch off.

    TS also should propose that the downed fighter should get another three shots, preferably soccer kicks to the head, after the KO for the ref to be certain that the downed fighter is actually out.
     
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  4. warriorscommando

    warriorscommando I will always protect you

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    Also TS is a dummy. Good ref Herb saw Lesnar was okay and allowed it to be continued. Fedor should have been TKO'd vs Maldanaldo...
     
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    There are a lot of fighters who are literally too tough for their own good. This a combat sport, not just straight up combat. There is no need for the fighters to take any more damage than is necessary. Better to save their brains and fight another day than take extra shots to the skull.

    Also, the champion is not always the best fighter in the division. Michael Bisping just beat Rockhold. Now, that does mean he deserves to be the champion and belt holder... but no one is going to argue that he's actually the best fighter in the division. Just like how Matt Serra was never really the best WW in the world.
     
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  6. Tulpa Omega

    Tulpa Omega Been here for years, not here for Likes.

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    A round? Don't you mean a fight? This whole post makes no sense at all. You can't "prove" you deserve a shot AFTER you beat the champ, you simply sign the contract and if yoy win then you were better thanthe champ. Deserving a shot is what is SUPPOSED TO BE GOING ON IN THE UFC, and NOT what is/has been going on. Fighters are supposed to earn their shot by working their way up the ladder, but title shots come about for all manner of bizarre reasons and circumstances. Beating a champ doesn't prove you deserved the shot, it just means that you got the shot and were successful.
     
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  7. Blackjack

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    Beating the champ is proof that the challenger deserved the shot. Otherwise they've just got a paper champion who is being protected from guys who can beat him.
     
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    What if a fighter got KOd on the last few seconds but the ref let him ride out the beating to the bell.

    Then he manages to get back to his feet for the next round and gets brutally KOd in the first few seconds without any offense.

    That fight should have been stopped
     
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  9. Lanx

    Lanx 房仕龍 Double Yellow Card

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    This is admittedly 1 tier away from the "smallest" weight class at bantam weight, by a guy known to be the master of shadowstep, and has never, ever been known to be a ko artist or have "heavy hands"

    so what do you do when Dominic Cruz goes Ham on Mizugaki?
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    Barely a minute into the fight, Cruz could have went on for another minute he was so fresh.
     
  10. Chubz

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    So true.
     
  11. ChefC

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    The organisation not only has a duty of care to the fighters, to sometimes protect them from themselves, but also to protect their own investment.

    What use is a fighter that gets punch drunk after 3 brutal fights because they're too stubborn or thick headed to go out?
     
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    Rosenthall kept encouraging Carwin which was a fuck up but technically letting it continue was the right call.
     
  13. akc814ilv

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    I actually agree with the TS
     
  14. Maladroit

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    This is a stupid argument. If you don't want brain damage, don't get into a sport where you get punched thousands of times in the fucking head.
     

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