There is K-1 level striking. Hunt vs JDS did NOT prove the opposite.

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Many ppl on this forum act as if there isnt K-1 level striking. A few facts real quick:

First: The best strikers (KBing, MT, Karate, some of the best champions in the world in those relative sports), were gathering to compete in K-1. Go ask google about the resumes of the K-1 elite, see if there are nobodies gathered of the street winning it) So my question is if not in K-1, what else striking competition/organization should be set as standard for best strikers? Do tell.

Second: The biggest myth on here seem to be that, because some MMA fighters had success in the stand up against K-1 guys, this should mean that all that K-1 is should be discredited. First of all, the small gloves, the threat of TD's and the different stance makes MMA whole other game. That aside there are some MMA fighters who either have very good striking background or have mastered it to a level that would allow them to be pretty competitive in K-1, I mean there are great MMA fighters who almost use no GG. Fighters like JDS and AS who primarily use their striking to win fights obviously have it figured out pretty good, not just for MMA but on some world level. I mean most likely they wont be champs like immediately if they went to a world class KB/MT event, but with slight adjustments which would make their game more suitable to the different challenges that the KBing brings, I'm sure they'd do pretty good.

Third (and I bring that up because it seems to be the main argument of the K-1 haters): The fact that Sapp had some success in K-1 does not prove that K-1 is not legit. Athleticism and strength always play huge factor in fights. Brock Lesnar anyone?? At least Sapp never became a champ, but then again the K-1 HW Division was a lot more competitive back then than the UFC HW Division.

Finally: LOLLOLOL to all the posters who think that a pure Boxer has the upper hand against a pure KBer in a striking match (both hands and legs). Hhahaha, seriously? I mean alright, there would be some instances that the Boxer would manage to close the distance safely and land that KO blow but most of the time what is gonna happen is that Boxer will not be able to take the punishment from the kicks. For someone who does not know how to check/counter them it would be devastating and if that does not lead to direct KO (leg/body/headkicks) lowkicks would most likely make boxer carry his hands lower and that would leave that head wide open for any kind of blows. A feel sorry for ppl who does not get that.

As to Hunt JDS I wont make any excuses for Hunt cause he fought well, gave his heart and really what else there is to say than JDS was the better man that night. Huge respect for him.
 
We should stop using a promotion title (a basically defunct promotion at that) to describe all of kickboxing.
 
There's no difference between high-level strikers in MMA and high-level strikers in kickboxing. Have always said this, will always say this.
 
Finally: LOLLOLOL to all the posters who think that a pure Boxer has the upper hand against a pure KBer in a striking match (both hands and legs). Hhahaha, seriously? I mean alright, there would be some instances that the Boxer would manage to close the distance safely and land that KO blow but most of the time what is gonna happen is that Boxer will not be able to take the punishment from the kicks. For someone who does not know how to check/counter them it would be devastating and if that does not lead to direct KO (leg/body/headkicks) lowkicks would most likely make boxer carry his hands lower and that would leave that head wide open for any kind of blows. A feel sorry for ppl who does not get that.

Nevermind. He's trolling.
 
overeem is a k1 champion

bigfoot is a kk1 champion

cain is a kkk1 champion.
 
The best strikers (KBing, MT, Karate, some of the best champions in the world in those relative sports), were gathering to compete in K-1. Go ask google about the resumes of the K-1 elite, see if there are nobodies gathered of the street winning it) So my question is if not in K-1, what else striking competition/organization should be set as standard for best strikers? Do tell.
Glory
 
We should stop using a promotion title (a basically defunct promotion at that) to describe all of kickboxing.

This is correct. Now Glory seems to be the top. I guess the term K-1 level striking would stick around though, cause from 1993 to 2010 K-1 was indeed the epitome of KBing
 
We should stop using a promotion title (a basically defunct promotion at that) to describe all of kickboxing.

I blame Joe Rogan for this.

And I just watched Badr Hari this last week and i didn't see anything mind bogglingly special. He just gave up in the second round.
 
We should stop using a promotion title (a basically defunct promotion at that) to describe all of kickboxing.
I have to wonder if these people even follow kickboxing. Cro Cop just won the K1 GP.
 
I have to wonder if these people even follow kickboxing. Cro Cop just won the K1 GP.

To be fair, K-1 existed for quite a while and just recently became defunct. The gold standard probably would in general be MT anyway (for the lighter weight-classes at least).
 
Second: The biggest myth on here seem to be that, because some MMA fighters had success in the stand up against K-1 guys, this should mean that all that K-1 is should be discredited. First of all, the small gloves, the threat of TD's and the different stance makes MMA whole other game.

The original point of bringing up "K-1 striking" was to defend the argument any MMA fighter who had a background in K-1 would embarrass anyone who didn't. See: the pre-Bigfoot Alistair Overeem hype train, and the recent people claiming Hunt would tool JDS on the feet.
 
K1 level striking is massively overrated on these forums; especially today.
 
Kickboxing is whatever, but just like in MMA HW kickboxers aren't that great.
 
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