There are two ways to fix USADA

How would you fix Drug testing in MMA

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Get rid of it


Or Lifetime ban for first offense

There is no middle ground

I say get rid of it
 
UFC just signed a new 10 year contract with them
 
Just imagine how much better UFC would be without USADA.... WAY less injuries, WAY less gassing, WAY less botched weight-cuts, better fights, more frequent fights, the list goes on! It's almost utopian.

MMA and MMA training put an unnatural strain on the human body but this can largely be mitigated. USADA prevents this mitigation and thus we end up with what we have now.
 
vgff said:
UFC just signed a new 10 year contract with them
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Damn that's a long contract to lock into, wonder if they put any back door exit clauses in it in case they want to get out.
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
Just imagine how much better UFC would be without USADA.... WAY less injuries, WAY less gassing, WAY less botched weight-cuts, better fights, more frequent fights, the list goes on! It's almost utopian.

MMA and MMA training put an unnatural strain on the human body but this can largely be mitigated. USADA prevents this mitigation and thus we end up with what we have now.
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I find it hard to believe that one couldn't agree with this sentiment. Some basic Nevada state IQ type drug tests are enough, USADA certainly hurts the product in some ways.
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
Just imagine how much better UFC would be without USADA.... WAY less injuries, WAY less gassing, WAY less botched weight-cuts, better fights, more frequent fights, the list goes on! It's almost utopian.

MMA and MMA training put an unnatural strain on the human body but this can largely be mitigated. USADA prevents this mitigation and thus we end up with what we have now.
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yes it's utopian indeed..because it's not real. there would be more injuries and adverse effects of all the fighters who doesn't know how to dose and use properly, possibly even deaths, like they had in cycling. there's no realism in your dream, bro. what's "unnatural" is using PEDS to gain an advantage that you fail to get by putting in more work, the champions will be the best doping connects
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
Just imagine how much better UFC would be without USADA.... WAY less injuries, WAY less gassing, WAY less botched weight-cuts, better fights, more frequent fights, the list goes on! It's almost utopian.

MMA and MMA training put an unnatural strain on the human body but this can largely be mitigated. USADA prevents this mitigation and thus we end up with what we have now.
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There's a counterpoint to it though. Cause you end up with guys like Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, and Kevin Randleman who suffered greatly in middle age from a wild west atmosphere of ped use during their career. The testing isn't designed to make the sport itself better. It's there to save fighters from their own ambitions, and liability issues down the road most likely. Example being the huge anti trust lawsuit that a lot of fighters were tied to. If and when there's ever a death related to a UFC fight, having USADA in place will pay dividends for them as far as liability goes.
 
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Dorkman said:
There's a counterpoint to it though. Cause you end up with guys like Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, and Kevin Randleman who suffered greatly in middle age from a wild west atmosphere of ped use during their career. The testing isn't designed to make the sport itself better. It's there to save fighters from their own and ambitions, and liability issues down the road most likely. Example being the huge anti trust lawsuit that a lot of fighters were tied to. If and when there's ever a death related to a UFC fight, having USADA in place will pay dividends for them as far as liability goes.
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Well they had a lot more problems than steroids
 
Get rid of USADA and WMMA like the good ol' days.

I'm only kidding

No I'm not

Or am I?
 
LOL at TJs nuthuggers emerging to start pathetic anti-USADA threads. You are all pro-cheating cowards.
 
Threetrees said:
Get rid of it


Or Lifetime ban for first offense

There is no middle ground

I say get rid of it
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Eliminate the tainted supplement excuse, it's a loophole that's already been exploited (See Jones' 2016 case).

After eliminating the tainted supplement excuse, there's no need to make failed tests confidential, so revert that change.

Make missed tests public knowledge.

Get rid of the snitch clause, unless USADA makes who got snitched on public knowledge, otherwise we simply have to take their word for it that some other athlete/distributor got busted.

Limit retroactive TUE's to life-threatening situations so it can't be exploited a la Cyborg.

And unless USADA/arbitrator can cite a peer reviewed study to support their claims, such claims shouldn't be part of policy/arbitration.
 
acannxr said:
Eliminate the tainted supplement excuse, it's a loophole that's already been exploited (See Jones' 2016 case).

After eliminating the tainted supplement excuse, there's no need to make failed tests confidential, so revert that change.

Make missed tests public knowledge.

Get rid of the snitch clause, unless USADA makes who got snitched on public knowledge, otherwise we simply have to take their word for it that some other athlete/distributor got busted.

Limit retroactive TUE's to life-threatening situations so it can't be exploited a la Cyborg.

And unless USADA/arbitrator can cite a peer reviewed study to support their claims, such claims shouldn't be part of policy/arbitration.
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That's a good post
 
vgff said:
yes it's utopian indeed..because it's not real. there would be more injuries and adverse effects of all the fighters who doesn't know how to dose and use properly, possibly even deaths, like they had in cycling. there's no realism in your dream, bro. what's "unnatural" is using PEDS to gain an advantage that you fail to get by putting in more work, the champions will be the best doping connects
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Just like all the injuries and deaths before USADA came in to save the day. Oh wait... <45>

It's almost like people don't remember UFC before USADA, which is very depressing. 2008 to 2012 were golden years and none of this doom and gloom shit happened. Or were you still in elementary school back then?
 
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