There are a lot of reasons to believe Gus is the favourite vs Jones in the rematch.

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  1. Melas Chasma

    Melas Chasma Red Belt

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    a) Gus was already on his way to a clear decision win first time when there was just a little over 5 min left. Had Gustafsson won the 4th Jonathan would have needed a stoppage in the 5th.

    b) Gus had no championship or 5 round fight experience first time. This is usually a big factor and should not be ignored.

    c) Jonathan has lost his aura of invicibility if he had any = more confident for Gustafsson.

    d) Gus knows now he can relatively easy stop Jonathans` takedowns = again more confident for Gustafsson to open up and commit to his attacks more like he normally likes to do.

    e) Jonathan won the fight mainly because of his soft and a relatively weak low kicks. It shouldnt be too difficult for Gustafsson to learn to check at least some of those kicks in the rematch.

    f) Gustafsson was already training in just 2 weeks after their first fight. It took over 2 months for Jonathan to heal up and go back in training.

    g) Gustafsson has been training healthy a long time. He doesnt seem to suffer with the same kind of little nagging injuries what Jonathan has been dealing with a lot.

    h) Gustafsson has better momemtum, he has been improving in a faster pace than Jonathan in the past 1-2 years (debatable).

    Now all you Jonathan witnesses can say to ignore all this is that Jonathan was just 70-80% first time, Jonathan underestimated Gus etc. Im sorry, but those are just excuses without any kind of an evidence to back them up. You all know this if you are honest. They are not real arguments without evidence, they are called excuses.

    Ps.A little correction to the common believe that Jonathan was closer to win the first fight by a stoppage; He wasnt. Gus was closer to finish Jonathan (doctor stoppage) between the rounds 4 and 5. Dana has said Big John and Jonathan begged doctor for not stopping the fight and when asked about this Big John have admitted he appealed to doctor for not stopping the fight.

    So please, stop saying Jonathan was more close to finish Gustafsson when in reality it isnt the case. A doctor stoppage is a legit stoppage win if its caused by a legal strikes from the opponent. Whether you like it or not, there is just no way around it. Gus banged that eye badly during the fourth and Jonathan has a nice scar to remind him for that for the rest of his life.

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    Even Fedor knows whats up.
     
  2. aali14

    aali14 Red Belt

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    Hopefully Jones accepts the rematch first, also lol at "Jonathan"
     
  3. saugeye killah

    saugeye killah No need rope hold up pants.

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    Naaa. Gus has a good chance, but you have to give someone with Jones' credentials the benefit of the doubt. 60/40 Jones
     
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    Gus via tko in the 2nd.
     
  5. Minnja

    Minnja Touch-Butt white belt Platinum Member

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    Why do you shorten Gustaffson but lengthen Jon?
     
  6. DizzyYeahYeah

    DizzyYeahYeah Red Belt

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    Reason to favour Bones:

    1. He already whooped dat ass.

    2. He had Gus rocked.

    3. Jones fought the #2 P4P LHW in Glow-ver and won, while Gus fought a top 25 LHW and won.
     
  7. HaterSlayer

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    The odds are gonna likely come in close to even with Jones a bit ahead for a two big reasons.

    1. Jon is the long time champion and if he's the underdog betting likely will go heavily towards him.

    2. From their first fight both guys seemed evenly fairly evenly matched and if the fight is similar to what it was the first time then Jon will get the benefit of the doubt according to the judges.

    For the Jones fan in me there are chances he'd go in as the favorite.

    1. There is a good chance Gus fought his best fight against Jon and still lost
    2. "Anything can happen" in MMA, but Alex's clearest path to victory is via KO and Jon's chin has seemed fairly rigid.
     
  8. 5H3RD0G

    5H3RD0G Silver Belt

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    Can't wait for a slobber knocker.
     
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    Keep hating. Jones is going to love drinking up all of those tears.
     
  10. One Inch Punch

    One Inch Punch Purple Belt

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    Tell me what happens if jones gets the take down on gus?
     
  11. The-AxeMurderer

    The-AxeMurderer Silver Belt

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    The #2 P4P LHW?? That doesnt even make sense....
     
  12. DizzyYeahYeah

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    Yeah it does, think about it............see?
     
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    It's kind of weird that you write out "Jonathan", which Jones doesn't use himself, while at the same time using a contraction "Gus", that Gustafsson doesn't use.

    It's like you'd write Richard Cheney and Dick Gere.
     
  14. ajmonsta

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    He'll probably get right back up. He got right back up in the 5th despite being badly rocked by that elbow at the end of the 4th and still feeling the effects of it. He looked like he was out on his feet in the fifth and jones still couldn't keep him down or finish him with head kicks.
     
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    The #2 P4P LHW? You do know what P4P means?
     
  16. bernsy666

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    Didn't read because way 2 long but I reckon the bookies might know a bit more than you when it comes to who's most likely to win. Why not make some $ if your convinced but remember the payout on an honorable defeat is still zero no mater the odds.
     
  17. One Inch Punch

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    By that stage both of them were pretty exhausted.
    I'd say if Jones gets a decent takedown on Gus early on and keeps him there it will be a bad night for Gus.
     
  18. PowermmA

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    Alex is a determined mothafucka. Jones will fall..
     
  19. MacDougall

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    Gus has viking blood. The only way he loses is by razor thin decision or being choked out. If it goes five I favour him this time. I think it will be another five rounder with Gus winning the first 4 rounds and Jones pouring it on trying to finish in the 5th but coming up short. These guys are made to fight each other.
     
  20. mmafighterEU

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    1. He didn't "whoop dat ass"

    3. Manuwa is ranked #11 and was undefeated before he fought Gus.

    "Jones fought the #2 P4P LHW in Glow-ver and won"
    Please elaborate the "2 P4P LHW".

    Check your facts before trolling bro.
     

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