Theory: Miesha Tate retired to clear Ronda's path to Holm revenge

I can't stand the belts to be honest, Miesha won 1 fight and now she's a completely different person psychologically and it explains her 2 defeats afterwards? Fuck off Miesha, you got smashed because your massive tits have affected your mobility and changed your stance to the point where you're just a punching bag with some grappling credentials.

she's not as shot as Gray Maynard, but she certainly reacts badly to being hit these days too. She was so terrified of Pennington finishing her too she refused to take a risk going for the finish.


Quit criticizing her decision to have those titties bigger!
 
The shit performance against someone that couldn't beat Bethe, without a robbery is a better answer.
 
wow. you need to breathe.

she was never the best of her era. maybe without RR, Cyborg and hell even Carano she could have been, but she's 2nd or 4th best of her era. in this sport 2nd best is easily forgotten or dismissed, sadly, because being 2nd or 3rd or 4th best in the world should be considered fucking amazing.

that being said, her era was 5 to 10 years ago. now she'll probably get beat by many up and comers. that's just the nature of the 'sport is evolving' beast. and maybe she knows it, eh? she just lost 2 in a row, and lost 3 rounds to 1 against Holm before going all in (good for her i say).

but really, does she - or any vet fighter - deserve what you just wrote there? remember, just because you can click a big blue "e" on your computer doesn't mean you have to be a dick to fighters on forums.
I'm not talking to Miesha Tate and this is a forum. I know and you know that in the debate things tend to progress further than they would if you were talking to that person directly, but that's just normal communication anyway.

it annoys me she makes so many excuses yet can't see the big changes in her style that haven't benefited her at all. Compare men's BW's to Women's BWs ... Miesha is pretty much rock bottom last for mobility while standing and she's at a good camp so what is going on? I don't have an issue with her loss to Nunes, she got lit up early and Amanda never let up, but the Pennington performance was pretty dire and to me a bit unnecessary. She didn't do Raquel any favours either by just letting it run to a decision, and no one's even talking about the fact that Raquel is a contender who beat the former champion and arguably beat Holm when Holly first came to the UFC.

Miesha stole the limelight by sticking it to Dana verbally after her retirement speech.
 
Totally plausible.

Honda and Cupcake have always been Baes, so I could totally see Miesha hooking a brother up.

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I'm not talking to Miesha Tate and this is a forum. I know and you know that in the debate things tend to progress further than they would if you were talking to that person directly, but that's just normal communication anyway.

it annoys me she makes so many excuses yet can't see the big changes in her style that haven't benefited her at all. Compare men's BW's to Women's BWs ... Miesha is pretty much rock bottom last for mobility while standing and she's at a good camp so what is going on? I don't have an issue with her loss to Nunes, she got lit up early and Amanda never let up, but the Pennington performance was pretty dire and to me a bit unnecessary. She didn't do Raquel any favours either by just letting it run to a decision, and no one's even talking about the fact that Raquel is a contender who beat the former champion and arguably beat Holm when Holly first came to the UFC.

Miesha stole the limelight by sticking it to Dana verbally after her retirement speech.

I found it rather odd she lashed out at Dana after the fight. And call me crazy, but did it seem like Dana was genuinely concerned about her well being? Which makes me wonder if he felt like that because out of general compassion towards her or something going on between them?

She def has her deficiencies, but I don't blame her being gun shy after getting pummeled into oblivion by Nunes. I think it was multiple reasons why she retired, brutal weight cut for the Nunes fight, and she was fighting with Caraway regarding their relationship. Dave Mitchell said she could be seen arguing with Caraway in the parking lot of Extreme Couture during or after training, with her breaking down and crying.

I never really liked Tate, but I always respected her grit and determination in achieving her goals. StrikeForce Champ and UFC Champion are still impressive credentials, and she can be proud she helped paved the way for WMMA.
 
Yup, purposely got destroyed in her last 2 fights, to limp away and retire. Sounds about right.
 
I had a dream that Ronda got choked out and then ran out of the venue crying before Buffer could call it.
 
At the end of the year, threads like this emerge.
 
the title has the word "conspiracy" missing
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I'm not talking to Miesha Tate and this is a forum. I know and you know that in the debate things tend to progress further than they would if you were talking to that person directly, but that's just normal communication anyway.

it annoys me she makes so many excuses yet can't see the big changes in her style that haven't benefited her at all. Compare men's BW's to Women's BWs ... Miesha is pretty much rock bottom last for mobility while standing and she's at a good camp so what is going on? I don't have an issue with her loss to Nunes, she got lit up early and Amanda never let up, but the Pennington performance was pretty dire and to me a bit unnecessary. She didn't do Raquel any favours either by just letting it run to a decision, and no one's even talking about the fact that Raquel is a contender who beat the former champion and arguably beat Holm when Holly first came to the UFC.

Miesha stole the limelight by sticking it to Dana verbally after her retirement speech.
But do you really think it's her breasts that messed up her mobility? She had her big titties when she beat Holly and McMann I'm pretty sure.
 
But do you really think it's her breasts that messed up her mobility? She had her big titties when she beat Holly and McMann I'm pretty sure.
yeah and she had no mobility against Holm and only won 1 round.

she looks awkward in the cage pretty much all the time to me, but I actually think it's not her tits specifically but more back issues caused by the additional weight and the fact she has to train so hard with those weights on her chest.
 
She wants to have Bryan's babies.
 
yeah and she had no mobility against Holm and only won 1 round.

she looks awkward in the cage pretty much all the time to me, but I actually think it's not her tits specifically but more back issues caused by the additional weight and the fact she has to train so hard with those weights on her chest.
Are implants that heavy? I've never heard this theory before, most people just think she's unathletic lol.
 
even if miesha was still fighting and was in the path to the title, i would still consider that a 'clear path' for ronda.


she would walk through miesha again. in a fight that we all knew the result of beforehand. again.


i swear to god, sherdoggers seriously think the ronda from before the holm fight just didnt/doesnt exist.
 
Are implants that heavy? I've never heard this theory before, most people just think she's unathletic lol.
well tits are that heavy and according to my sister who has had implants, they absolutely do give you back troubles. Hers were pretty big but I'm not sure they were bigger than Miesha's at least significantly, and of course Miesha "uses" hers a lot more.

maybe I'm talking out my arse and she's always been that immobile with her weird stance but I dunno ... I wouldn't have thought it would stand out in my mind if it was her normal way.
 
When did Miesha retire?
 
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