The way of Conor McGreggor. The future is now. Amazing new HL!

[INTERL0PER]

I'll try to be quick with this, because we're clearly just going round in circles, but...

Youre post essentially boils down to:

"I dont care that his boxing is subpar. I dont care that hes just reach...na na na na doesnt matter" etc

Its like, hello. Its ALL ABOUT HIS REACH. His boxing being SUB PAR IS A BIG THING... as the Gus fight proved.

how convenient, any of Jones flaws simply don't matter to you and no one should care...BUT we should praise his "MMA game" and everything else....

I didn't explain myself clearly. I'm not trying to say that Jones shouldn't work on his boxing, or it's not a flaw in his game, I'm saying that all I care about with a fighter is, "are they effective?" And Jones is most definitely that, despite having flaws in his boxing.

I'm all about efficient, effective domination. Don't care how they do it, just that they do.

I like seeing fighters maximize the various gifts they have. Jones does that. So does Conor.

Also, Machida won the first round against Jones purely on the feet. Jomes had to get a TD to change the momentum of the fight and simply went on to catch Machida

The first round was close, it's not like Machida blew him out of the water.

In the second round, Jones caught Machida with a hard hook on the feet, rocking/stunning him, which allowed him to get inside to get the TD. The subsequent TD and elbow most definitely changed the flow of the fight, but a strike on the feet set it up. Don't act like Jones had no success standing.

Theres ASLO ONE BIG FACT youre ignoring, Shogun and Machida WERE FAR SMALLER than Jones. Jones beat them via his size and reach

I don't ignore that at all. Why would I? It's obvious. Just as it's obvious that Gus is larger than Shogun too.

Like I SAID GUS was the first to match Jones in size so It finally came down to skill vs skill with Jones and Jones failed miserably without his size and reach advantages to rely on. Thats the point

Failed miserably... and won?

It was a close fight, which you clearly think that Gus won, but regardless, neither fighter performed miserably that night. It was a very tight, very tough fight. I agree with the judges. Jones did enough to win. He landed the harder, more damaging strikes.

YOU NAME ME ONE fighter who was as big for their division as Jones is for LHW. Exactly

Per fight Jones averages more reach, height, and weight over his opponents THAN ANY ONE in MMA ever

Thats WHY Jones size and reach are a huge deal for him

I did name you a fighter.

Dan Hornbuckle. 6'2", 83.5" reach. Welterweight. Only two inches shorter than Jones, one inch less reach, but two weight classes lower. That's an even bigger advantage than Jones has.

I'll name some more fighters, shall I?

How about Cyrille Diabate? 6'6", 81.5" reach. LHW. Same weight class as Jones, similar dimensions... nowhere near similar results.

Bigfoot Silva? 6'4", 83" reach. Cuts to HW. So, he's huge. Weird, all that reach and size didn't mean dick against Cormier.

Look, I'm not trying to discount Jones' reach advantage, all I'm saying is that's not all he has. If it all it took to be successful in MMA was to have a freakishly long frame, guys like Dan Hornbuckle would be champions. But they're not. Because it takes far more than that. It takes talent, skill, hard work, incredible fight IQ and heart/will... and Jones has all of that in spades.

Jones didn't get to be one of the best active fighters just by having long limbs.

 

[rudolf]

If Conor isn't Champion by the end of next year(barring injury) I'll delete my account.

 

[LGVB]

Denis Siver via KO

 

[kmartje]

Got jokes, huh? Maybe we'll use your mom's room and she can stay in bed. We'll hit her with the 'ole Russian two-on-one to start and then score some points while making sure she adequately uses her 'riding time' on us both.

A mother joke. Very original. I'm just amazed you managed to keep your hands off his junk long enough to type that

 

[GrewUpSlapBoxin]

You might not like what I have to say about Anderson lol

The thing was Anderson would only counter

Anderson COULD NOT leadConor can lead (as well as counter)

In fact, when opponents wouldnt fall for Anderson's antics and not over commit, Anderson would just completely shut down

I was with you TS, but u fked up

Lead then counter

You've proven to be an MMA noob.

 

[green ribbon]

Yup, that's about as pretty as it gets. Slip the punch, sweet short counter left hook, lights out.

Smoooooooooth.

That was the KO that made me think "This guy is special." Of course, level of competition is always a factor, but there are times where you can see greatness regardless of the opponent.

To land a counter that quick and smooth takes real skill.

Ivan Buchinger is actually quite good. One of the best fighters outside the UFC in that weight class and has been on a really good run since the McGregor loss.

 

[Metal_Daze]

Conor bless.

 

[Boxingislife]

Oh I know, he's horrible at leading. LOL. I'm not an Anderson fan, I just like how fluid/smooth his movement is. As for the defense, I agree. Anderson can pull off some higher level evasive defensive maneuvers against predictable strikes, where Conor has done it with trickier offense and still made it work well. Conor's spatial awareness and ability to read his opponents' attacks is even better from what I've seen from him.

Its true. MMA fighters are very predictale (even Jon Jones despite all the obnoxious "hes so creative" hype is very predictable - oblique kick, eye rake, oblique kick, some spinning shit. Fighters just arent able to get past his reach or dont know how to deal with Jones' clinch once they do)

MMA fighters always throw the same combos, hardly ever lead with a good jab, and dont even move their heads. Jon Jones in perticular has terrible head movement and terrible offensive and defensive boxing

Conor is so ahead of where everyone else is at right now in MMA striking. Conor knows, "ok, if i move this way or do that, the opponent will likely react or counter this way, and I will counter or respond like this." (Conor is such a student of fighting) Conor will even take it a step further and bait the reaction he wants while hes already thinking ahead to the couner and pouncing on it. Conor is always STEPS ahead of his opponents.Its like its a game of chess and Conor is Bobby Fischer compared to everyone else in MMA striking or on a checkers board Conor is already thinking 3 moves ahead

When you really look at Conor's skill set objectively, hes amazing.

1. Conor's meat and potatoes boxing alone is fantastic

-You see Conor probing his lead hand to distract to get shots through or to bait countering oppurtunties, like a high level boxer would

-You see Conor doing pull away counters like a high level boxer would (pulling back from a punch or slipping it and than countering with a straight)


-You see Conor always coming in behind his jab like a high level boxer would. His two step feint- up jab or rising jab to left straight is killer.

-You see Conor with nice straight punches with his lead shoulder hiding his chin (again another example of Conor maintaining good defensive responsibility)

In boxing, an important saying is, a great offense HAS BUILT in defense, and thats what you see in Conor when he punches with his chin tucked hiding behind his lead shoulder to deflect or when he does a spinning kick with perfect balance and timing amd instanly returns to position to defend

However despite all that, theres still more things Conor can learn from what high level boxers in boxing are doing

Like when an opponent stands tall covering up, the best thing to do is to step to either side and create a flank from an angle. Always gets through. Thats how Conor can use his movement to directly create openings

Also, using feints more. Fient are great to first guage opponents reactions. Once you can see how the opponent reacts, you can start playing him and creating countering oppurtunties off fients etc

As for Conor's kicks, his kicks are so damn beautiful. Recently Conor has even been using flashy kicks as a way to bait opponents to come after him. Conor is literally an MMA striking genuis. He puts it all together so beautifully.

Conor's boxing is leagues above anyone else in the UFC. His kickboxing his leagues above anyone else and he mixes and matches both so beautifully in a full display of MMA striking. Conor IS the evolution of MMA striking

Conor IS the greatest striker ive ever seen in MMA history and its not an exaggeration nor is it even up for debate in my opinion, until some one else comes along and shows more skills/or a well rounded striking skill set

Connor is nothing but pure unadulterated skill. Watching Conor strike is almost like watching striking porn

 

[Redhawks100]

Oh I know, he's horrible at leading. LOL. I'm not an Anderson fan, I just like how fluid/smooth his movement is. As for the defense, I agree. Anderson can pull off some higher level evasive defensive maneuvers against predictable strikes, where Conor has done it with trickier offense and still made it work well. Conor's spatial awareness and ability to read his opponents' attacks is even better from what I've seen from him.

He isn't horrible at leading, you just haven't watched enough of Anderson's fights. Anderson is a much better striker than Conor and how do we know this? He's used his striking to defeat elite competition consistently, while Conor has yet to display his striking against an elite opponent. Conor may have some impressive fundamentals but he's nowhere near Anderson-status yet.

 

[Redhawks100]

Lol at "Anderson can't lead"

It's as if you clowns have only watched the Weidman fights.

It's also funny how all of these striking experts came to Sherdog once Conor became the biggest hype-train of the month.

 

[Boxingislife]

I was with you TS, but u fked up

Lead then counter

You've proven to be an MMA noob.

Go WATCH his fights with Maia and Lietes TO SEE how Anderson when forced to lead would just completely shut down

The gifs you posted ARE not examples of "leading"

Its Anderson countering a slow opponnet who blindly chased him or playing off agressive opponents WHO STOOD RIGHT IN FRONT of Anderson, almost mezmorized

Weidman didnt play any of those games and look how Weidman destroyed Anderson

 

[Redhawks100]

Go WATCH his fights with Maia and Lietes TO SEE how Anderson when forced to lead would just completely shut down

The gifs you posted ARE not examples of "leading"

Its Anderson countering or playing off am agressive opponent WHO STOOD RIGHT IN FRONT of Anderson

You clearly show you KNOW nothing about MMA/fighting/boxing etc

Holy shit, you're a tool. How the fuck are you supposed to lead when your opponent flops on his back every time you move forward to throw a strike?

 

[BiasBEgone]

There should be a disclaimer saying : The athletes in this footage that are not named Dustin were not relevant at the time they fought McGregor.

 

[Boxingislife]

Lol at "Anderson can't lead"

It's as if you clowns have only watched the Weidman fights.

It's also funny how all of these striking experts came to Sherdog once Conor became the biggest hype-train of the month.

Do you also think both Weidman fights were "flukes"

You Anderson fans are delusional.

As mentioned,

Anderson was great at countering slow opponnets who would blindly chase him or playing off an agressive opponent WHO would STAND RIGHT IN FRONT of Anderson, almost mezmorized

Weidman didnt play any of those games and look how Weidman destroyed and out classed Anderson

Conor does everything Anderson does BUT WAYYY better i.e Conor actually maintains defensive responibility unlike Anderson, and Conor can actually lead just as effectively as counter, unlike Anderson

Conor is an evolved smarter superior southpaw version of Anderson IMO

 

[Redhawks100]

Do you also think both Weidman fights were "flukes"

You Anderson fans are delusional.

As mentioned,

Anderson was great at countering an opponnet who would blindly chase him or playing off an agressive opponents WHO would STAND RIGHT IN FRONT of Anderson, almost mezmorized

Weidman didnt play any of those games and look how Weidman destroyed and out classed the utter shit of Anderson

Conor does everything Anderson does BUT WAYYY better i.e Conor actually maintains defensive responibility unlike Anderson, and Conor can actually lead just as effectively as counter, unlike Anderson

Conor is an evolved smarter southpaw version of Anderson

Uh, nope. Never said that either

That isn't true either, it's pretty obvious you haven't watched a good majority of Anderson's fights.

Riiiiight... against which elite opponents, by the way? Oh and for 'defensive responsibility' he sure does get hit quite a bit.

Anderson fought in a southpaw stance a lot of the time lol so it's obvious you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

I know you just started watching MMA a month or two ago, but just stop.

 

[Boxingislife]

He isn't horrible at leading, you just haven't watched enough of Anderson's fights. Anderson is a much better striker than Conor and how do we know this? He's used his striking to defeat elite competition consistently, while Conor has yet to display his striking against an elite opponent. Conor may have some impressive fundamentals but he's nowhere near Anderson-status yet.

Youre clearly delusional

You want to know the truth?

Anderson wasnt even a better striker than healthy Shogun

Shogun consistently out struck a PRIME Machida across 2 fights

Shogun also destroyed a prime Rampage purely on the feet

Those alone were far superior striking achievements than anything Anderson ever accomplished on the feet in an MMA

Anderson was more flash than substance

You Anderson fans ate it up because you dont know MMA or know any better. "Omg hes showboating, how amazing"

Just like how Anderson's showboating against Weidman had you "people" actually believeing Anderson won the first round of the first fight, and wouldve won if not "playing around," despite the fact that in reality Weidman was TOOLING tAnderson. Anderson GOT desprate beacuse he couldnt do shit to the vastly superior smarter Weidman

Conor is a far superior striker to Anderson with far more substance. Already plenty of examples shown. Go read those posts

 

[RepairManManMan]

Youre clearly delusional

You want to know the truth?

Anderson wasnt even a better striker than healthy Shogun

Shogun consistently out struck a PRIME Machida across 2 fights

Shogun also destroyed a prime Rampage purely on the feet

Those alone were far superior striking achievements than anything Anderson ever accomplished on the feet in an MMA

Anderson was more flash than substance

You Anderson fans ate it up because you dont know MMA or know any better. "Omg hes showboating, how amazing"

Just like how Anderson's showboating against Weidman had you "people" actually believeing Anderson won the first round of the first fight, and wouldve won if not "playing around," despite the fact that in reality Weidman was TOOLING tAnderson. Anderson GOT desprate beacuse he couldnt do shit to the vastly superior smarter Weidman

Conor is a far superior striker to Anderson with far more substance. Already plenty of examples shown. Go read those posts

Stop.

Shogun was out struck by Forrest griffin.

got KO'd by OSP.

and was outstruck by Dan Henderson.

and KO'D by osp.

 

[RepairManManMan]

wand destroyed prime rampage twice. is he better than anderson on the feet?

 

[Boxingislife]

Yeah, when Conor threw that left cross to the body he had his lead shoulder up (shoulder lead/roll) and kept it there, as you can see, which was smart. He knew that the other side of his chin however was unprotected and if Dustin could land a left he could be in some trouble... so what he did there was rolled with it, just at the end of the punch. It's telling how good with measuring distance he is, he has it down to inches in precision.

The guy is pretty amazing. I've analyzed a lot of what he does, both in the standup and his grappling and I'm really impressed. Nobody is doing this type of high level shit aside from legends like Anderson who mastered rolling with punches and using the shoulder roll against his opponents. Conor can be seen using just about every defensive technique in the book, different types of evasive defense and standard. I'd say that he probably is the best striker we've seen in MMA to date, so I agree. He's not weak in a single area of his standup.

Conor should adapt the body jab from his lead hand to hit the body from out of range

And when Conor throws the body jab he should change levels with it so that he punches in a straight line to the body

Punching down is not good

Body jab with lead hand is a much more effective and safer way to hit the body from outside range.

Also once the body jab is established its an even greater weapon for opening up staires

Body jab to lower guard, than bam straight left up staires instantly. Always works

Gus used body jabs to completely expose Jones in boxing
PLEASE ADAPT Conor

 

[Paynebringer]

I've never seen a human move as perfect as him.

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