Social The Way Conservatives Used to Talk About Immigration

[HomeCheese]

I saw this today and was struck at how our discourse has fallen. When did decency and compassion become old fashion? I hope everyone takes a few minutes to look at this and think about it. Some good thoughts in here and a couple of old guys I had voted for before.

<blockquote class="bluesky-embed" data-bluesky-uri="at://didlc:q6ukvk5emaykb35vqvjnk5zy/app.bsky.feed.post/3lqdskwlbtc2d" data-bluesky-cid="bafyreihu2rmxkms35kskmlmrj7tfara3ejdwmuq5qcx4unrfogtfiyltdy" data-bluesky-embed-color-mode="system"><p lang="en">How conservatives USED to talk about immigration:<br><br><a href="">[image or embed]</a></p>&mdash; Dream for America (<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:q6ukvk5emaykb35vqvjnk5zy?ref_src=embed">@dreamforamerica.bsky.social</a>) <a href="">May 29, 2025 at 12:51 PM</a></blockquote><script async src="https://embed.bsky.app/static/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Yehudim]

Nice broken links, Cheese.

 

[Scheme]

I sometimes wonder if Hitler spoke out against Trump, would the left embrace him and lick his nuts like they do for other war criminals? Or could that be the final straw that leftists need to look themselves in the mirror and say "maybe we are wrong".

 

[HomeCheese]

Nice broken links, Cheese.

Shoot, worked on the preview! Seems IG has it so I can't embed it but the link works. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[Striderxdj]

I can almost guarantee that one of the intended posts included the debate between Reagan and Bush Senior.

I can also guarantee that if you took what those two said about immigration and fed it to MAGA without telling them who said it, they would assume it was from some far left communists who hate the U.S.

 

[heloder]

When did decency and compassion become old fashion?

They always were for half the country—they just needed a piece of shit like trump to make it socially acceptable again. Those of us who grew up in small town USA have always known that the hateful, racist scum never went away; they just became better at hiding it.

 

[Gutter Chris]

I saw this today and was struck at how our discourse has fallen. When did decency and compassion become old fashion? I hope everyone takes a few minutes to look at this and think about it. Some good thoughts in here and a couple of old guys I had voted for before.

Cheese ...I gave a bunch of people at a Trump rally the finger

Also cheese..omg guys I can't believe our discourse is fucked up yo.

 

[nhbbear]

I sometimes wonder if Hitler spoke out against Trump, would the left embrace him and lick his nuts like they do for other war criminals? Or could that be the final straw that leftists need to look themselves in the mirror and say "maybe we are wrong".

If hitler came out and spoke in favor of trump do you think that trumpers would lick hitlers ass or would it would be the final straw for trumpers to see that maybe they are wrong? As far as I am concerned, fuck em both with a chainsaw

 

[HomeCheese]

I can almost guarantee that one of the intended posts included the debate between Reagan and Bush Senior.

I can also guarantee that if you took what those two said about immigration and fed it to MAGA without telling them who said it, they would assume it was from some far left communists who hate the U.S.

The link works and They have it locked so it can't be embedded it seems. There is some Reagan and Bush 1 & 2 in there yes.

 

[HomeCheese]

Cheese ...I gave a bunch of people at a Trump rally the finger

Also cheese..omg guys I can't believe our discourse is fucked up yo.

Good fucking for you man. I have done that before and it kinda bit me in the ass. One of the baby boomer pricks waving an American flag at the rally is my neighbor and on the HOA board. I get major bad vibes from them now.

Good think I could easily kick his ass if it ever came to that. I know he won't get mouthy.

 

[Striderxdj]

I sometimes wonder if Hitler spoke out against Trump, would the left embrace him and lick his nuts like they do for other war criminals? Or could that be the final straw that leftists need to look themselves in the mirror and say "maybe we are wrong".

Why do you morons keep playing that tired "agree on one thing = agree with everything and love them" strategy?

ElOn MUsK HaTes TrumP now sO the LefT LovEs hIM.

Meanwhile the left:

 

[Scheme]

If hitler came out and spoke in favor of trump do you think that trumpers would lick hitlers ass or would it would be the final straw for trumpers to see that maybe they are wrong? As far as I am concerned, fuck em both with a chainsaw

I agree, fuck them both. But in this case, George W. Bush is a person the left despised and called a war criminal. He had a 6% approval rating amongst democrats at the end of his term, and liberal democrats had him at 2%:

Bush and Public Opinion

Overview: Bush and Public Opinion As George W. Bush prepares to leave the White House, the United States is in many ways dramatically different from when

www.pewresearch.org

Approval among conservative and moderate Democrats dropped from 22% to 8%, while approval among liberal Democrats dropped from 7% to 2%.

So why is this historically deeply unpopular figure among the left now being used as a shining example of "conservatism"? Why is a person who was even more unpopular amongst democrats during his term being used as a glorious conservative?

 

[scoopj]

Shoot, worked on the preview! Seems IG has it so I can't embed it but the link works. Maybe I'm missing something?

Yes, you're missing the distinction between legal and illegal immigration.

 

[Scheme]

Why do you morons keep playing that tired "agree on one thing = agree with everything and love them" strategy?

ElOn MUsK HaTes TrumP now sO the LefT LovEs hIM.

Meanwhile the left:

Because the OP is making the idiotic statement that George W. Bush's opinion matters at all and we should dictate our opinions on conservatism based on what he says.

He was a hated individual amongst the left who wouldn't listen to him before. But once he speaks out against Trump then suddenly he's the picture perfect version of conservatism that every right wing person should respect and emulate.

The left are simply listening to guys like George W. Bush, Michael Bolton and Dick Cheney because they came out as anti-Trump. If they supported Trump and said literally the exact same things, they would be criticizing them and their association with Trump. Because the words don't matter. It's all about Trump. I wish the democrats would let go of all their Trump hatred because they just keep digging themselves deeper into unpopularity and we do need a second party at some point to push back against unilateral right-wing control.

 

[HomeCheese]

Yes, you're missing the distinction between legal and illegal immigration.

Nope.

 

[Osculater]

Ronald Reagan was down with teh immigrants and knew their worth to the nation

 

[HomeCheese]

Because the OP is making the idiotic statement that George W. Bush's opinion matters at all and we should dictate our opinions on conservatism based on what he says.

He was a hated individual amongst the left who wouldn't listen to him before. But once he speaks out against Trump then suddenly he's the picture perfect version of conservatism that every right wing person should respect and emulate.

The left are simply listening to guys like George W. Bush, Michael Bolton and Dick Cheney because they came out as anti-Trump. If they supported Trump and said literally the exact same things, they would be criticizing them and their association with Trump. Because the words don't matter. It's all about Trump. I wish the democrats would let go of all their Trump hatred because they just keep digging themselves deeper into unpopularity and we do need a second party at some point to push back against unilateral right-wing control.

You seemed to have missed the first sentence in the thread? It was about how we talk about immigrants and behaving decently. Why are Trump and his people so toxic?

 

[scoopj]

Nope.

Let me try again before this thread gets wastelanded. You're missing the ability to post a proper link?

 

[HomeCheese]

Nice broken links, Cheese.

<blockquote class="bluesky-embed" data-bluesky-uri="at://didlc:q6ukvk5emaykb35vqvjnk5zy/app.bsky.feed.post/3lqdskwlbtc2d" data-bluesky-cid="bafyreihu2rmxkms35kskmlmrj7tfara3ejdwmuq5qcx4unrfogtfiyltdy" data-bluesky-embed-color-mode="system"><p lang="en">How conservatives USED to talk about immigration:<br><br><a href="">[image or embed]</a></p>&mdash; Dream for America (<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:q6ukvk5emaykb35vqvjnk5zy?ref_src=embed">@dreamforamerica.bsky.social</a>) <a href="">May 29, 2025 at 12:51 PM</a></blockquote><script async src="https://embed.bsky.app/static/embed.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Finally found the link on bsky.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Because the OP is making the idiotic statement that George W. Bush's opinion matters at all and we should dictate our opinions on conservatism based on what he says.

He was a hated individual amongst the left who wouldn't listen to him before. But once he speaks out against Trump then suddenly he's the picture perfect version of conservatism that every right wing person should respect and emulate.

The left are simply listening to guys like George W. Bush, Michael Bolton and Dick Cheney because they came out as anti-Trump. If they supported Trump and said literally the exact same things, they would be criticizing them and their association with Trump. Because the words don't matter. It's all about Trump. I wish the democrats would let go of all their Trump hatred because they just keep digging themselves deeper into unpopularity and we do need a second party at some point to push back against unilateral right-wing control.

Bingo.