The War Room Bet Thread V4

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Lead, Nov 16, 2019.

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Best bet(s) settled in the last bet thread (see closed bets section in post 3)

  1. Bet 32 Lead v. JameRussler

    7.7%
  2. Bet 27 HomerThompson v. JamesRussler

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Bet 38 SBJJ v. GOATER

    15.4%
  4. Bet 37 Jack V Savage v. waiguoren

    61.5%
  5. Bet 33: HereticBD v. 44nutman

    7.7%
  6. Bet 35: waiguoren v. Pelosi2016

    15.4%
  7. Bet 30: Jack V Savage v. SBJJ

    15.4%
  8. Bet 29: waiguoren v. PolishHeadlock

    38.5%
  9. Bet 39: lowmanproblems v. JamesRussler

    7.7%
  10. Bet 31: waiguoren v. andnowweknow

    23.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Lead

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    Previous Threads

    The War Room Bet Thread
    The War Room Bet Thread v2 (10 bets)

    The War Room Bet Thread v3 (20 bets)
     
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    Open Bets

    #16 @Lead v. @HUNTERMANIA
    1. Trump will be impeached during his first term as President
    2. HUNTERMANIA- for , Lead- against
    3. End of Trump's term or if he is impeached beforehand
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months
    6. If Trump is removed from office from illness, death, or assassination, the bet will be null

    #21. @HomerThompson v @oleDirtyBast4rd
    1. Trump is removed from office on or before December 31st, 2019
    2. HomerThompson- for, oleDirtyBast4rd- against
    3. 01/01/2020
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year
    6. Death and physical illness would result in a null bet. Mental illness and subsequent removal would count.

    #24. @HomerThompson v @Lead
    1. Trump is removed from office on or before December 31st, 2019
    2. HomerThompson- for, Lead- against
    3. 01/01/2020
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    6. Death and physical illness would result in a null bet. Mental illness and subsequent removal would count.

    #25. @waiguoren v @HomerThompson
    1. Trump is removed from office on or before December 31st, 2019
    2. HomerThompson- for, waiguoren- against
    3. 01/01/2020
    4. Sig bet
    5. 6 months
    6. Death and physical illness would result in a null bet. Mental illness and subsequent removal would count.

    #26. @HereticBD v. @VivaRevolution
    1. Bernie Sanders will win the 2020 Presidential Election
    2. VivaRevolution- for, HereticBD- against
    3. 11/04/2020
    4. Avatar & Signature bet
    5. HereticBD win=Viva's Av/Sig for 1 month; Viva win= HereticBD Av/Sig for 1 year

    #28. @HomerThompson v. @IGIT
    1. Within 18 months of Trump's new justice being appointed, the supreme court will allow individual states to outlaw abortion.
    2. HomerThompson - For, IGIT - Against
    3. Tentatively 18 months once the Trump justice is confirmed (04/06/2020)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 2 months
    6. If Trump isn't able to get an appointee confirmed, the bet is null

    #34. @VivaRevolution v. @Rob Battisti
    1. Trump will win the 2020 presidential election
    2. Rob Battisti- For, VivaRevolution- against
    3. 11/7/2020 (tentatively)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 3 months

    #36. @waiguoren v. @Trotsky
    1. Michael Avenatti or Cory Booker will be the 2020 Democratic nominee for president.
    2. waiguoren: Avenatti, Trotsky: Cory Booker
    3. The day of the 2020 Democratic National Convention
    4. Name bet
    5. 1 year
    6. If neither man is the 2020 Democratic nominee for president, the bet is a push.

    #37. @xcvbn vs. @Hunter Simpson v. @Quipling
    1. Company A in the (probably) sealed subpoena case that went to SCOTUS is owned by this country:
    2. @xcvbn - Israel @Hunter Simpson - Turkey @Quipling - Qatar
    4. Avatar
    5. 1 month
    6. If Company A is not owned by any of the named companies, the bet is null.
    7. Other parties may join the betting pool if they select an unnamed country and current participants approve.

    #38. @VivaRevolution v. @Yorkist
    1. Donald Trump will lose in the Republican primary or not run for a second term.
    2. VivaRevolution- for, Yorkist- against
    3. Tentative (if Trump announces he isn't running or when a Republican nomination is secured)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
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    #40. @waiguoren v. @PolarBearPaulVarelans
    1. Bernard Sanders or Joseph Biden will be the 2020 Democratic nominee for US president.
    2. PolarBear- Biden, waiguoren- Sanders
    3. The day of 2020 Democratic National Convention
    4. Avatar and Signature bet
    5. 2 Months
    6. If neither man is the 2020 Democratic nominee for president, the bet will be a push.

    #41. @Yorkist v. @Serenity Now
    1. Trump will win the 2020 Presidential Election
    2. Yorkist- for, Serenity Now- against
    3. 11/04/2020 (tentative)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month

    #42. @waiguoren v. @HereticBD
    1. Joseph Biden will be the 2020 Democratic nominee for president.
    2. @waiguoren- against @HereticBD -for
    3. 2020 Democratic National Convention (Tentatively 7/16/20)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months

    #43. @bobgeese v. @waiguoren
    1. Nikki Haley will be the 2024 Republican nominee for president.
    2. @waiguoren - against @bobgeese - for
    3. Official Announcement at the 2024 Republican National Convention (around July 2024)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year

    #44. @Cunningham v. @waiguoren
    1. Donald Trump will win the 2020 election for president.
    2. @waiguoren - against @Cunningham - for
    3. November 9, 2020
    4. Sig and av bet
    5. 1 year
    6. The bet is only valid if Peter Buttigieg or Bernard Sanders is the Democratic nominee for president on election day 2020. If Trump doesn't run for whatever reason, bet is void.

    #45. @HockeyBjj v. @PolishHeadlock2
    1. Tulsi Gabbard will be on at least one state ballot for the 2020 presidential election as a third party candidate
    2. @PolishHeadlock2 - for, @HockeyBjj- against
    3. 11/07/2020
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 2 months
    6. Write in votes do not count as being on the ballot

    Current Records (Between Rankings and not in specific order)



    Closed Bets

    #10 @VivaRevolution v. @Jack V Savage
    1. Trump will be at 33% or more with Bovada's betting odds
    2. VivaRevolution- For, Jack V Savage- Against
    3. 11/07/16 8:00PM ESt
    4. Signature bet
    5. 11/08/16-12/07/16
    *I will use this site to convert the betting odds to percentages http://sportsbettingsites.org/betting-tools/no-vig-calculator/'
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #1 @Fawlty v. @Tropodan (Onesided)
    1. Donald Trump wins general election
    2. Tropodan, for. Fawlty, against.
    3. 11/08/2016
    4. If Trump wins the general election, Fawlty wears av of Tropodan's choosing. Freeroll (no punishment if Tropodan loses).
    5. 11/08/2016-01/20/2017
    Winner: Tropodan

    #4 @Space v. @Lead
    1. Donald Trump wins the general election
    2. Space- for, Lead- against
    3. 11/08/2016
    4. Signature bet- winner picks losers signature
    5. 11/08/2016-01/20/2017 (Election day to Inauguration day)
    Winner: Space

    #7 @Quipling v. @Rex Kwon Do
    1. Winner of the U.S. Presidential Election
    2. Quipling : Hillary - Rex :Trump
    3. 11/08/16
    4. Av Bet- Loser of the bet changes his av to a suitably presidential picture of the winning candidate
    5.11/09/16- 12/09/16
    Winner: Rex Kwon Do

    #9 @m52nickerson v @Hans Gruber
    1. The winner of Florida's 29 electoral votes.
    2. @m52nickerson - Clinton will win, @Hans Gruber - Trump will win.
    3. 11/08/16 (tentatively)
    Winner: Hans Gruber

    #12 @Limbo Pete v. @Lead
    1. Who wins Nevada and Colorado in the 2016 Presidential Election
    2. Limbo Pete- Nevada Trump/ Colorado Clinton, Lead- Colorado Trump / Nevada Clinton
    3. 11/09/2016
    4. Signature bet
    5. 01/21/2017-02/21/2017
    6. Obviously if both states go Clinton or Trump, the bet is null
    Null

    #13 @Hans Gruber v. @Lead
    1. Trump will win Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania in the 2016 Presidential election
    2. Hans - For, Lead- Against
    3. 11/09/2016
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 11/9/2016-12/9/2016
    Winner: Hans Gruber

    #14 @BKMMAFAN v. @Amerikuracana
    1. Who wins Michigan in the 2016 Presidential Election?
    2. BKMMAFAN- Clinton, Amerikuracana- Trump
    3. 11/8/16 (tentatively)
    4. Signature and Avatar Bet
    5. 3 months, likely 11/09/16-2/09/16
    Winner: Amerikuracana

    #2 @waiguoren v. @m52nickerson
    1. Compare total discrepancies over four swing states (Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina)
    [​IMG]
    where each i indexes one of the states, the p's are the predicted Clinton lead in each state and the a's are the actual Clinton lead in each state.
    2. Whoever (Waiguoren using his prediction posted before noon on election day or m52nickeson with fivethirtyeight projected vote share polls plus for his prediction election day) has the smaller sum (using the equation above) wins.
    3. 11/08/2016 (Election day) or slightly after depending on results coming in
    4. Signature bet- winner picks losers signature
    5. 11/08/2016 (expected based on #3) to 01/20/2016
    Winner: waiguoren

    #5 @Concurrent GOAT v. @Rex Kwon Do
    1. Percent Margin Donald Trump beats Clinton by in US Pres. election popular vote
    2. Concurrent GOAT 0.1% to 2.0% Rex Kwon Doh 2.0%+
    3. 11/08/16
    4. Avatar bet- Winner picks the losers av
    5. 11/09/16-12/08/16 (Depends when the results are completely in)
    Null

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    #6 @KnightTemplar v. @Rex Kwon Do
    1. Percent Margin Donald Trump beats Clinton by in the US Pres. election popular vote
    2. @KnightTemplar 0.1% to 2.0% @Rex Kwon Do 2.0%+
    3. 11/08/16
    4. Signature bet- Winner picks the loser's signature; signature chosen must be quote praising Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer of Germany OR a quote by Adolf Hitler himself
    5. 11/09/16-12/08/16 (Depends when the results are completely in)
    Null

    #8 @waiguoren v. @cooks1
    1. National Popular vote margin with Clinton/Trump will be b>
    2. Waiguoren- For Cooks1- Against
    3. 1/21/16 (Day after inauguration day)
    4. Signature Bet
    5. 01/21/16 to next US Presidential election day
    6. If Clinton simultaneously wins the popular vote by over 6.4%, but loses on the electoral map and Trump is elected on that basis, the bet will be void, as Hillary did get over 6.4% of the popular vote, but she did not win by 6.4% of the popular vote
    Winner: waiguoren

    #11 @Jack V Savage v. @LucasWithLidOff
    1. Hillary Clinton will be indicted by 12/28/2016
    2. LucasWithLidOff- For, Jack V Savage- Against
    3. 12/29/16
    4. Avatar Bet
    5. Permanent
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #3 @Jack V Savage v. @mcveteran81
    1. Obama will still be president a week after the scheduled inauguration date due to declaring a state of emergency
    2. mcveteran- True Jack V Savage- False
    3. 1/27/2017 (week after scheduled inauguration day)
    4. Signature bet- Winner picks the loser's signature
    5. 1/28/2017-2/27/2017
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #18 @SidJustice v. @waiguoren
    1. Neil Gorsuch will not be confirmed to the Supreme Court on or before 4/7/2017
    2. SidJustice: Agree/ waiguoren: Disagree
    3. 4/8/2017
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year
    Winnner: waiguoren

    #15 @Jack V Savage vs. @drstrangelov
    1. Trump's favorability rating Real Clear Politics average is 51.8 before Labor Day
    2. drstanglov- For, Jack V Savage- against
    3. 09/04/2017 (Labor Day)
    4. Hybrid- Jack's avatar or Drstranglovs sig
    5. 1 month (tentatively 09/04/17-10/03/17)
    6. Attempted or successful assassination of Trump or attack by foreign government or there is pending or concluded vote on authorization for military action before his rating goes up, the bet is null
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #20. @Fawlty v. @HomerThompson
    1. Flynn, Stone, Manafort, Page, Kushner, Don Jr, Eric, President Trump, Ivanka, Sessions, DeVos, Preibus, Ryan, Pruitt, Pompeo, Bannon, or Perry will be formally criminally indicted by 23:59 EST 15 June 2018
    2. @HomerThompson- 2 or more indicted, @Fawlty- 1 will be indicted, Tie- 0 are indicted
    3. 06/15/18
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months
    Winner: HomerThompson

    #22. @Quipling v. @N13
    1. Moore or Jones will be sworn in as Senator
    2. Quipling- Jones, @N13- Moore
    3. When either person is sworn in as Senator
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    Winner: Quipling

    #23. @Lead v. @N13
    1. Moore or Jones will be sworn in as Senator
    2. @Lead- Jones, @N13- Moore
    3. When either person is sworn in as Senator
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    Winner: Lead

    #19. @waiguoren v. @konagold
    1. President Donald Trump resigns or is impeached on or before June 2, 2018
    2. @konagold - for @waiguoren- against
    3. 06/09/2018
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year (est 6/9/18-6/8/19)
    Winner: waiguoren
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    #32. @Lead v. @JamesRussler
    1. Democrats will win 209 seats or more in the 2018 Midterm Election
    2. Lead- for, JamesRussler- against
    3. 11/07/2018 (tentative, races could take longer to call)
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    *Party seats are determined by who caucuses with a party if there are independent candidates that win.

    Winner: Lead

    #27. @HomerThompson v. @JamesRussler
    1 & 2. 2018 Midterm Election results- James wins if (1) Republicans retain at least 218 seats in the House and (2) gain net 9 seats in the Senate (i.e. 60 seats total). Homer wins if (1) Democrats reach 218 seats or more in the House and (2) lose under 8 seats in the Senate.
    3. 11/07/2018 (tentative, races could take longer to call)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 2 months (tentatively 11/07/18-01/06/19)
    6. In the situation, neither of the two events happen, the bet is null
    Winner: HomerThompson


    #38. @SBJJ v. @GOATER
    1. Beto O'Rourke wins Texas in the 2018 midterms
    2. GOATER- for, SBJJ- against
    3. 11/07/2018 (tentatively)
    4. Signature bet
    5. 6 months
    Winner: SBJJ

    #37. @waiguoren v. @Jack V Savage
    1. Democrat Katie Hill will defeat Republican Steve Knight in the 2018 House of Representatives race for California's 25th Congressional district.
    2. Jack V Savage for, waiguoren against
    3. When the California Secretary of State certifies the results of the 2018 Congressional elections.
    4. Sig bet
    5. 3 months
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #33. @44nutman v. @HereticBD
    1. Trump being charged with Money Laundering by Jan 1st, 2019
    2. @44nutman for, @HereticBD against
    3. 01/01/2019
    4. Avatar bet
    5. 1 month
    Winner: HereticBD

    #35. @waiguoren v. @Pelosi2016
    1. Either Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders will declare a candidacy for president for the 2020 US presidential election.
    2. waiguoren for; Pelosi2016 against
    3. Election day 2020, or whenever one of Sanders/Biden files the requisite paperwork (whichever occurs first)
    4. Name bet
    5. 1 year
    Winner: waiguroen

    #30. @Jack V Savage v. @SBJJ
    1. Commerce Department's second estimate for 2018 Real GDP growth will be 2.90% or lower
    2. Jack V- For, SBJJ- Against
    3. Tentatively 02/28/19
    4. Signature bet
    5. 3 months
    6. We will be able to pull the result from here: https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/news_release_sort_national.htm
    Winner: Jack V Savage

    #29. @waiguoren v. @PolishHeadlock
    1. The Mueller investigation will indict Trump and accuse Trump of committing a crime to EITHER
    a) cooperate with / help Russia carry out the DNC/DCCC/Clinton office hack
    OR
    b) offer Russia concessions (policy, money, etc) in exchange for the fruits of one of the hacks above
    2. PolishHeadlock- for, waiguoren- against
    3. When the Mueller investigation concludes
    4. Avatar and Signature bet
    5. 5 years
    6. Null if Mueller is fired or Trump unexpectedly passes
    *Lead, Zankou, and panamaican will make the call on the bet when the investigation concludes.
    Winner: waiguoren

    #17 @waiguoren v. @rj144
    1. Trump will win the 2020 Presidential Election
    2. Waiguoren- for rj144- against
    3. 11/04/2020
    4. Signature bet
    5. 1 year
    6. Bet is null if Trump doesn't run in 2020 or pulls out of race regardless of the reason why
    Cancelled

    #39. @JamesRussler v. @Lowmanproblems
    1. Within 6 months, DOJ will announce indictments for ANY of Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Ohr, Page, Yates, Lynch, Obama, Brennan, Clapper, or other government officials of the “Russia Collusion” investigation
    2. For- JamesRussler, Against- Lowmanproblems
    3. 10/16/19
    4. Avatar bet (specific avs dealing with candidate choice)
    5. 3 months
    6a. If lowman loses, the avatar is Trump with MAGA hat, If JamesRussler loses, the avatar is a candidate of Lowman's choice.
    6b. Due to the language of the bet, the bet winner will only be decided if both participants agree who won. In the event they disagree who won, the bet will be null.
    Winner: lowmanproblems

    #31. @waiguoren v. @andnowweknow
    1. Roger Stone will be indicted and convicted on at least one charge brought by Robert Mueller's team for Trump/Russia coordination/collusion/conspiracy.
    2. andnowweknow- for, waiguoren- against
    3. At the conclusion of Stone's trial, if it happens. If not, at the end of the Mueller investigation.
    4. Sig bet
    5. 10 months
    6. The conviction needs to be for coordination/collusion/conspiracy between Trump/Russia. For example: treason, conspiracy to defraud the USA, or conspiracy to commit an offense against the USA by coordinating with the Russian state would all give the win to andnowweknow. Tax fraud as in the Manafort case would not count. Perjury would not count. If Stone signs a plea agreement for any reason, the bet is a push.
    *Lead also reserves the right to have participants add two additional mods to decide who won if it's contested.
    Winner: waiguoren
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2019 at 8:47 AM
  4. Amerikuracana

    Amerikuracana Plutonium Belt

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    Idk I think I actually kind of lost a bet to Jack a few weeks ago regarding the amount of votes Trump lost by barely taking Utah. Wtevr.
     
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    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    This is rankings for bets that were made official here. You're only one has been a three month av/sig bet with BKMMAFAN that is keeping you pretty high still in the rankings.
     
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    Amerikuracana Plutonium Belt

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    Ok man.
     
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    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Feel free to make more bets. Reclaim the WRB belt or something maybe
     
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    waiguoren Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Impressive victory over strong opposition. Congratulations.
     
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    Amerikuracana Plutonium Belt

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    I would actually have to start using a 5 second google search to verify little facts that usually don't even go to the crux of my point. I'm not Wonder Woman over here lol

    Out of respect for you I will make a bet or two over the next month.
     
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    waiguoren Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    You know where to find me.
     
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  13. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    Unofficial.

    The system is dumb, though. I have the better record and won head to head.

    @Lead, SBJJ should be asterisked and removed from the ranking for not using the sig I assigned him.
     
  14. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    I believe it was an honest mistake (he just didn't know how to do a sig), but I was nonetheless denied my winnings.
     
  15. Lead

    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    @SBJJ
    Did you not use the sig? Failing to do so results in being dropped from rankings until fulfilling past bet punishments.
     
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    Sketch ?.?.?.?.?.?

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    This is dishonest.
     
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    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    The ranking system is basic at this point where large bets or large volume of bets mostly dictate who ends up on top. I can’t find a good way to handle head to head better other than a slight bonus if someone beats a high ranked person. The records and strength of comp will always be debated like mma which just adds another layer of dicussion since the rankings can’t be perfect.
     
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  18. SBJJ

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    Yea. I fucked up because I'm old man when it comes to tech. I ended up posting it in a different spot. But did leave it up for even longer than the bet

    He said he was ok with it earlier but I guess hes raging now for some reason and looking to lash out because hes bruised

    Take me out please. Even though Jack said he was cool with what I did technically he is correct

    He is actually doing what hes accusing Wai of.

    Jack, pain and disappointment is temporary. It will fade
     
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    SBJJ Gold Belt

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    Technically, I believe hes correct.

    He was ok with what happened but he is hurting now and lashing out.

    It is definitely childish and almost something like a scorned girlfriend would do.
     
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  20. SBJJ

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    Kinda fucked to accept what I did and bitch now.

    I mean, it's like a wife bringing up something her man did a year ago after saying she was cool with it.

    But you are angry and I understand
     
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