The USADA effect: Heavyweights off PEDs

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  1. Obsidian Fracture

    Obsidian Fracture No sunshine when it's on

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    Ever since USADA I have a few things:

    Gas tanks are running out fast, where we used to have relentless monsters for heavyweights in the PRIDE days, now we see many fighting at a much slower pace, or gassing hard.

    Endlessly spamming takedowns, flashy kicks, jumping attacks and gruelling fights are all wearing people down faster. People are starting to look human again. Do you guys miss the mexican supplements?
     
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  2. vcmmafan

    vcmmafan Black Belt

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    Could be
     
  3. Offended

    Offended Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    lmao what in the fuck are you harping about, the big 3 were more or less about 230lbs.

    Far from monsters.
     
  4. Logan M

    Logan M Purple Belt

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    I completely agree. Fights are obviously better when the fighters are on steroids but they wanted to legitimize the sport. With USADA the UFC is one of the cleanest sports leagues and it doesn't exactly have a pool of the best athletes on earth so you get some shitty performances now.

    PEDs can do a lot of things other than merely make fighters put on muscle mass. Their greatest benefits are for recovery.
     
  5. Dragonseeker

    Dragonseeker Brown Belt

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    The HWs looked worse since USADA. But this shouldn't be a surprise. Reem basically showed you how much PED can help you at HW where power reigns supreme.
     
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  6. RizinSon88

    RizinSon88 I'll hug & I'll squeeze u till you're hypnotized

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    I miss undersized HWs like Randy and Cormier...it was awesome to see them slay giants with the grind.
     
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    RNCommando Orange Belt

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    Possibly true I know USADA has been like Black Death to Brazillian MMA they are suffering off the Vitamins !!!!
     
  8. Ying Li

    Ying Li Yo mama

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    It was funny watching Randy v. Brock in hindsight. Brock was gigantic compared to little Randy.
     
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  9. SHAZAM

    SHAZAM Brown Belt

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    The top Pride HWs would be small compared to the "new breed" like Carwin, Rogers, Lesnar and Uber Reem. In shape Kharitonov, Doom, Nog, Fedor Cop, etc. were around 230-240ish. Even Barnett and Alexander weren't that big.

    Anyway, this is what true men / athletes are supposed to look like. Idc who you are, if you get a NFL guy and put him under USADA and NSAC testing and have him fight clean he'd gas and get TKOd much faster. Sherdoggers can claim its bad cardio all they want but that just shows their lack of experience and training. Fighting isn't just about cardio. These guys are doing damage. Its not like ball sports where you can play the next day. These guys have to go in there with nagging injuries and if they look bad they have to wait months before they redeem themselves.

    Im just ranting but i do truly believe MMA has the best athletes for MMA. Would i like to see PEDs in MMA? Yes and no. Let them juice in Japan but keep it clean here. Variety is good. If they let one guy roid (Lesnar) then let them all roid if not then keep it clean.

    Again, im just ranting and my post probably didn't make sense. Im going to sleep trollol
     
  10. DIABOLUS

    DIABOLUS Banned Banned

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    RIP Heavyweight Division, how badly we miss you.

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  11. Lawblaw

    Lawblaw Black Belt

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    I wish they can let the HWs juice
     
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  12. Mr Wings

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    Fine, but Coleman and Kerr had extreme problems with the gas tank at times.
     
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  13. Supatune

    Supatune P R I D E

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    Yeah. Reem always had the skill to go with it, which is why he's one of the very few HW that still look good post USADA (the rest have noticeably declined besides Stipe, both in terms of physique and gas tank)
     
  14. Bubblun

    Bubblun Brown Belt

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    I don't remember those relentless monsters you are talking about, not in Pride nor in the UFC pre-USADA.
     
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  15. Vintersorg

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinaric_race
     
  16. DarkneT

    DarkneT Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    Francis looks pretty juiced to me TS is this is a complaint there's no big jacked guys for you to jack off to?
    Damn usada
     
  17. Seagal's sensei

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    I watch the sport to find out who's the best fighter, not who's got the best steroid doctor money can buy.
     
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  18. Quietus

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    probably because 99.9% of people can't be 250lbs+, lean & athletic without steroids. So naturally with USADA, heavyweights are going to start to look more like Derrick Lewis than Ubereem.
     
  19. Maiji

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    To me it seems USADA regulates which PED's they allow. There are many supplements that enhance performance, it's just to what degree and if they will be allowed. Creatine enhances just not as much as TRT or roids.
     
  20. BuckyBarberFanClub

    BuckyBarberFanClub Gold Belt

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    Except post Usada Brazilian w/l records are better than the Americans

    Go figure
     
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