The Ultimate Turtle / 4 Points Thread

How could i forget this...

The Switch

 
I love getting a guy turtled up, i feel like my game starts to open up when he turtles.

Lately with less experienced guys, i like to try to pull off the Schultz front headlock (haven't had too much success with it.) or Anaconda...

but my first instinct is to spin around and get them hooks in.

That said, I NEVER turtle up. I'd rather go to my butt or back and deal with side control or mount than with having a guy take my back.
 


8 bottom counters, and plz dont blah blah about Peterson roll into crucifix, lots of things have counters if u dont do things fast explosively
 
I think I have around 52 submissions to attack the turtle. And a lot from bottom. U can see I do a lot many dont do in my 2 hr grappling HL in the M.E. and my 1 1/2 hr highlight from my recent 5th trip in Japan

My top game lock flow, without turtle is at 108 subs

Bottom game without bottom turtle like 60.
 
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