The UFC's ruleset is as anti-BJJ as it gets!

[Jpenwell14]

Now let me go find a thread that says the UFC rules are anti-striker because the cage allows ground fighters to get easier takedowns and to bunch strikers up against it while on the ground, the cage doesn't allow strikers to cut fighters off like they can in a ring, a striker can lose if a ground fighter just holds them down, etc etc . . .

It's MMA. ALL MARTIAL ARTS AND FIGHTING STYLES have to adapt their game to win.

100% it favors takedown oriented no gi combat pressure. 100% fighters hate it so much that wrestling is becoming scarce

 

[Jpenwell14]

The biggest problem BJJ fighters face in MMA is not round duration or inability to keep a dominant position on the ground between rounds, it's the inability of a BJJ specialist to get the fight to the ground due to sub-par wrestling/judo skills. Everything else is secondary. The inability of BJJ specialists to dominate MMA lies solely on the shoulders of said BJJ specialists, time to improve and adapt your game.


Actually, the cage aids the fighter on the bottom in getting up most of the time, unless you're facing someone like Khabib.

Well you could argue that if they were better at distance management that they could force fighters to panic and get into their wheel house. Not necessarily as difficult as out wrestling wrestlers

 

[Siesta]

The five minute rounds, making fights start on their feet on the beginning of each round and not where it ended in the previous, the judges scoring a lose for the one being on the bottom, not to mention the fence who makes it impossible to move your hips when you are stuck against it are all parameters that make bjj very uneffective in today's ruleset.
I think we need the first round to be 10 minutes and the fight to be started in the same position where it ended in the previous, and scoring who favors more the guy on the bottom if he's actually working.
Sadly, it won't happen for business reasons since casuals want to see standing fights but it would be way more realistic and entertaining for those who understand the beauty of bjj.

If they don’t like the rule set, go somewhere else. If you don’t like it, don’t watch. Your problem = solved.

 

[eiyuu]

100% it favors takedown oriented no gi combat pressure. 100% fighters hate it so much that wrestling is becoming scarce

Except there's a list of fighters, including current champions, who used wrestling to prominence.

Then there are some champions who used striking to prominence.

Good fighters use their chosen skill to adapt and overcome.

That's why it's called MIXED Martial Arts.

 

[Regal Boy]

I think the scoring system is overall just flawed. We should set up a scoring system that actually rewards specific moves and reversals and sweeps and takedowns and defending takedowns and landing shots etc. Not just "look" at the round and see who overall did better.

Like, sweeping from the bottom and getting mount should be +5 points. A knockdown strike that doesn't end in a knockout should be +8, a solid body kick should be +4, defending a takedown should be +5, getting a takedown should be +5, etc. The numbers I just wrote are obviously arbitrary but you get the jist, we should have an actual scoring system that rewards moves and such like they have in wrestling, jujitsu, and other combat sports.

 

[Jpenwell14]

I think the scoring system is overall just flawed. We should set up a scoring system that actually rewards specific moves and reversals and sweeps and takedowns and defending takedowns and landing shots etc. Not just "look" at the round and see who overall did better.

Like, sweeping from the bottom and getting mount should be +5 points. A knockdown strike that doesn't end in a knockout should be +8, a solid body kick should be +4, defending a takedown should be +5, getting a takedown should be +5, etc. The numbers I just wrote are obviously arbitrary but you get the jist, we should have an actual scoring system that rewards moves and such like they have in wrestling, jujitsu, and other combat sports.

We don't want to start point fighting as the primary way to win. Fights will become boring staring contests quickly

 

[2004 account]

Cool, some couch potatoes on Sherdog acting arrogantly with someone who just wants to have a debate.
By the way, Zahabi is also a big proponent of the ten minute round and the "make the round start where the previous ended" thing, he also said he gets that, for business reasons, it can't be like that, but he definitely thinks we would see way more submissions and bjj guys making it in the ufc.
But maybe some of you arrogant Sherdog jerks also think he is a casual who doesn't know shit about fighting...

Eff those retards. It's true and anyone that doesn't see the bias against bjj in na mma rules is just blind

 

[Regal Boy]

We don't want to start point fighting as the primary way to win. Fights will become boring staring contests quickly

This would incentivize constant action whereas now, lay and pray and wall and stall are actually valid techniques, because we don't score movements.

With actual movements being scored, it forces fighters to constantly attack and try to score movements, stalling means the man who's winning just remains ahead and wins, so you are forced to attack and counterattack. We could even just penalize stalling and you lose points if you're just pushing the guy up against the wall without being able to secure a takedown (I have another post going into this more deeply).

 

[McSpikes]

Maia is my favorite fighter of all time. I'm a fan of BJJ. But you lose me with this nonsense especially " the fight to be started in the same position where it ended in the previous"

 

[Jpenwell14]

This would incentivize constant action whereas now, lay and pray and wall and stall are actually valid techniques, because we don't score movements.

With actual movements being scored, it forces fighters to constantly attack and try to score movements, stalling means the man who's winning just remains ahead and wins, so you are forced to attack and counterattack.

Yellow card system is a simpler solution i think. And the round ring of bkfc to make wall and stall more difficult. And one fc rules.

 

[Jpenwell14]

Maia is my favorite fighter of all time. I'm a fan of BJJ. But you lose me with this nonsense especially " the fight to be started in the same position where it ended in the previous"

Not really a terrible idea. Just unprecedented.

 

[KeepItRealist]

BJJ is boring af to watch. Even no-gi has been for years and years. The top guys just stall and stall.

If anything, people should be stood up more and punished for stalling in MMA.

 

[RNC555]

Cool, some couch potatoes on Sherdog acting arrogantly with someone who just wants to have a debate.
By the way, Zahabi is also a big proponent of the ten minute round and the "make the round start where the previous ended" thing, he also said he gets that, for business reasons, it can't be like that, but he definitely thinks we would see way more submissions and bjj guys making it in the ufc.
But maybe some of you arrogant Sherdog jerks also think he is a casual who doesn't know shit about fighting...

Im a grappling guy, being in bottom closed guard in a fight where ground and pound is legal is bad actually.

Only inferior grapplers who arent skilled enough to stand up, sweep or submit would settle for guard as their only and last option not somewhere they want to be.

 

[Jpenwell14]

BJJ is boring af to watch. Even no-gi has been for years and years. The top guys just stall and stall.

If anything, people should be stood up more and punished for stalling in MMA.

Danaher death squad and tenth planet have been super entertaining for a long time.

Classic bjj guys, not so much

 

[KeepItRealist]

Danaher death squad and tenth planet have been super entertaining for a long time.

Classic bjj guys, not so much

EBI is more exciting than the ADCC. But it's still boring for the most part. One fairly exciting match doesn't make up for an entire event of stalling.

And the top grapplers incessantly bitch about how little they are paid. Not surprising when no one, not even hardcore fans want to watch.

 

[Jpenwell14]

EBI is more exciting than the ADCC. But it's still boring for the most part. One fairly exciting match doesn't make up for an entire event of stalling.

I can't deny that. I prefer watching judo newaza over just about any ground fighting

 

[Negator402]

Shut the fuck up retard

Impressive!! You learn to converse that way in your GED seminar?

 

[Law Dog]

Cool, some couch potatoes on Sherdog acting arrogantly with someone who just wants to have a debate.
By the way, Zahabi is also a big proponent of the ten minute round and the "make the round start where the previous ended" thing, he also said he gets that, for business reasons, it can't be like that, but he definitely thinks we would see way more submissions and bjj guys making it in the ufc.
But maybe some of you arrogant Sherdog jerks also think he is a casual who doesn't know shit about fighting...

Yup. He don’t know shits.

 

[Negator402]

Fighting is based on boxing, which is the most watched combat sport historically by a broad margin since catch wrestling of the 1930s.

Fighting is dynamic, and you want to encourage action. BJJ is a 29 minute chess match with strikes that is not dynamic. By restarting position after each round or due to inactivity, you encourage active advance of position.

The fence simulates a real combat scenario, likely in a confined space. That is why the fence is natural.

Fighting is exhausting, whereas BJJ is not. For that reason, BJJ competitions use 20 minute rounds often. Fighting should be a balance of energy reservation and urgency. 5 minute rounds are great.

Zahabi likes 10 minute rounds? GREAT! He can start his own promotion. Having 1 great fighter in 15 years does not make you the Yoda of mma. Shall we ask Kavanaugh or Taverdyan what they think too?

Your post is trash. Why would we take the 4th most important mma contribution art, after boxing, wrestling, and kick boxing, and mold mma after that? Are you a tard? Should we throw a soccer ball and some baseball bats in the cage too?

 

[TerrorTimmy]

Cool, some couch potatoes on Sherdog acting arrogantly with someone who just wants to have a debate.
By the way, Zahabi is also a big proponent of the ten minute round and the "make the round start where the previous ended" thing, he also said he gets that, for business reasons, it can't be like that, but he definitely thinks we would see way more submissions and bjj guys making it in the ufc.
But maybe some of you arrogant Sherdog jerks also think he is a casual who doesn't know shit about fighting...