The UFC would be more popular without USADA

They should go back to doing Testing Before and After Fights and stop doing any testing while fighters aren't even anywhere close to fight night.

They don't need to get rid of USADA, just have them "tweak" their procedure to what I mentioned. That way, there is still the illusion of legitimacy but without compromising a major fight card.
 
The problem with steroids is that its a huge advantage of those who don't.
How would you like it, if you hit a guy so hard that he doesn't flinch and keeps coming at you and doesn't get tired.
Its impossible fight that you cannot win.

Pretty much if you allowed steroids, everyone will need to take it to keep up.
 
mmahorse said:
The problem with steroids is that its a huge advantage of those who don't.
How would you like it, if you hit a guy so hard that he doesn't flinch and keeps coming at you and doesn't get tired.
Its impossible fight that you cannot win.

Pretty much if you allowed steroids, everyone will need to take it to keep up.
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Got no problem with that if everyone used them. It would be a level playing field and fighters would STILL need *SKILL* to win fights.
 
mmahorse said:
The problem with steroids is that its a huge advantage of those who don't.
How would you like it, if you hit a guy so hard that he doesn't flinch and keeps coming at you and doesn't get tired.
Its impossible fight that you cannot win.

Pretty much if you allowed steroids, everyone will need to take it to keep up.
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People already start with unfair advantages. Usain Bolt could not train a day in his life and outrun an unathletic white guy thats trained his whole life. Would you say its an unfair advantage that Bj Penn is rich and can afford better camps, food, physiotherapists dieticians and food than a poor fighter? Or that mark hunt can naturally not be ko’d?
Why is taking steroids where they draw the line? If a fighter is willing to take gear and put his health on the line to get better then more power to him,

Not only are a lot of guys doing it anyway, but if they let everyone do it they would make more money.
 
USADA gives them the illusion of caring about fighter health and safety, and they also cover up failed tests up when too much money is at stake... It's the perfect scenario for UFC. That's why they chose USADA over WADA (the cheaper option)

It is what it is.
 
Lando said:
They bring in a testing organisation to make it more legit, but then go the wwe way with money fights and drama. Pick one you fucks

Get rid of USADA, there will be more exciting fights, less injuries and a decent heavyweight division again.
People want to see guys like Vitor kick peoples fucking heads off, not 2 skinnyfat guys gassing in 2 rounds trading jabs. Get some freakshow pride style fights mixed in there to bring in some new viewers and viola.

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completley wrong.with no testing that mainstream media would not cover it at all. The sport would not even be sanctioned in some states and countries. You are saying its ok to cheat in this sport. and you think this will make it more popular.
holy shit.
 
I dont see how the ufc can continue with usada after this shambles with jones. Theyve lost their credibility within the sport and maybe it would be an opportunity for the ufc and usada to part ways, assuming they can contractually, and if not as soon as that would become possible. I think going back to state ac testing would probably be the best option now.
 
I don't think allowing steroids will make the sport much more popular.

What has got the sport more popular is personalities (love them or hate them) not roided up giants. Ironically it's been a FW / LW that has pushed the UFC to become as big as it has.

Making the sport more about marital arts and treat the fighters with no bias, wih more focus on it being a sport (and have tournaments!) will make it more popular. UFC are also crap at hyping up fights and fighters, so they could do better there.
 
Most of Sherdog wouldn’t like it. They are for clean fighters.
 
Hoof Hearted said:
I don't think allowing steroids will make the sport much more popular.

What has got the sport more popular is personalities (love them or hate them) not roided up giants. Ironically it's been a FW / LW that has pushed the UFC to become as big as it has.

Making the sport more about marital arts and treat the fighters with no bias, wih more focus on it being a sport (and have tournaments!) will make it more popular. UFC are also crap at hyping up fights and fighters, so they could do better there.
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It will, fighters will fight more often.
 
Lando said:
People already start with unfair advantages. Usain Bolt could not train a day in his life and outrun an unathletic white guy thats trained his whole life. Would you say its an unfair advantage that Bj Penn is rich and can afford better camps, food, physiotherapists dieticians and food than a poor fighter? Or that mark hunt can naturally not be ko’d?
Why is taking steroids where they draw the line? If a fighter is willing to take gear and put his health on the line to get better then more power to him,

Not only are a lot of guys doing it anyway, but if they let everyone do it they would make more money.
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Fighters will also end up takin= more damage and long term effects

I.e bisping
 
kuka45 said:
It will, fighters will fight more often.
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How does that affect the popularity? You mean if an already popular fighter fights more often it will help increase the popularity of the UFC?
 
Headkicktoleg said:
Yes, but then lawsuits like Mark Hunt's would carry MUCH more weight as they wouldn't have plausible deniability. You simply can't run a contact sport these days without drug testing.
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Buddy they use more steroids in the NFL and the NBA. How often do you hear about them getting busted. They use there own testing so the public doesn't see the results.

The groundwork has been laid out on how to handle this. Dana has some kind of weird obsession with keeping usada.
 
With no testing, Ubereem would destroy all fighters.
 
At least we would have fewer guys getting pulled out because of «injury».

Other than that, everything would be about the same.
 
Headkicktoleg said:
Yes, but then lawsuits like Mark Hunt's would carry MUCH more weight as they wouldn't have plausible deniability. You simply can't run a contact sport these days without drug testing.
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Which is Strange because Floyd was crusified by fans not that long ago for wanting Olympic level drug testing
 
BeardotheWeirdo said:
USADA gives them the illusion of caring about fighter health and safety, and they also cover up failed tests up when too much money is at stake... It's the perfect scenario for UFC. That's why they chose USADA over WADA (the cheaper option)

It is what it is.
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USADA basicly ruined the rep of the UFCs two greatest fighters (with GSP) ever and a good chunk of the top fighters too. It's far from a perfect scenario
 
The UFC would be more popular if they didn't dilute their product with so many cards headlined by fighters casual fans don't care about and then putting them on their streaming service. Once people stop giving a shit because there's too much saturation, it's incredibly hard to get them back, as demonstrated by the drop in the average PPV's buyrate post-2014.

If the UFC did 12 stacked PPVs per year and 12 cards on network/cable television, they'd be so much more popular. UFC PPVs and Fight Nights uses to be special events, and now, it's basically just another Saturday, to a point where it's more rare to have a weekend without a UFC event going on.
 
Yeah, just look at how much more successful those MMA organisations that don't use USADA testing are compared to the UFC.
 
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