The UFC employs a certain amount of fighters. How hard is it to make a base pay of 30k and add

[frye666]

And add in health insurance and training costs if the fighter wanted to go to a UFC facility? 300 fighters at 30k salary is 9 mil a year. So maybe the UFC drops 30 mil a year, using a basic 30k base salary, with a modest increase for weathered fighters, and they pay for the healthcare and training. The rest of the revenue gets split like always. That would let the fighters have a livable income. It would still let the top guys get the $$, and it would not cost the UFC a lot of profit really. They might have better fights if they have guys that can just fight and not have to do other things.

 

[Carl Sonnen]

That would cut into this:

 

[Bend NvR Break]

People don't understand business.

Why would I settle for making $1 off something if I can make $1.50 off it?

 

[frye666]

People don't understand business.

Why would I settle for making $1 off something if I can make $1.50 off it?

Well, what if you decided to make the $1 for two years so you could make $3 for the 5 years after that?

 

[FrankieNYC]

And add in health insurance and training costs if the fighter wanted to go to a UFC facility? 300 fighters at 30k salary is 9 mil a year. So maybe the UFC drops 30 mil a year, using a basic 30k base salary, with a modest increase for weathered fighters, and they pay for the healthcare and training. The rest of the revenue gets split like always. That would let the fighters have a livable income. It would still let the top guys get the $$, and it would not cost the UFC a lot of profit really. They might have better fights if they have guys that can just fight and not have to do other things.

UFC has about 600 fighters
They can train for free at UFC PI as well as free food and full access to staff, doctors, nutritionist, etc.
All UFC fighters get injury insurance

But they 100% can certainly pay more

 

[2EZ]

And add in health insurance and training costs if the fighter wanted to go to a UFC facility? 300 fighters at 30k salary is 9 mil a year. So maybe the UFC drops 30 mil a year, using a basic 30k base salary, with a modest increase for weathered fighters, and they pay for the healthcare and training. The rest of the revenue gets split like always. That would let the fighters have a livable income. It would still let the top guys get the $$, and it would not cost the UFC a lot of profit really. They might have better fights if they have guys that can just fight and not have to do other things.

Do you even business

 

[frye666]

UFC has about 600 fighters
They can train for free at UFC PI as well as free food and full access to staff, doctors, nutritionist, etc.
All UFC fighters get injury insurance

But they 100% can certainly pay more

They just need to give a base salary to those fighters.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Well, what if you decided to make the $1 for two years so you could make $3 for the 5 years after that?

Can I make $1.50 and still get the $3 deal?

And let's be real. The UFC's roster has vastly increased over the years so there's more fighters making a real living fighting then ever. That's the bonus of running as many shows as the UFC does.

 

[frye666]

Do you even business

Target tried to get into Canada a few years ago. But they did it half assed. The shelves were always barren, the staff was too light, and they just did not commit. It backfired. Shopping at target was like shopping in a store from an episode of the walking dead. A few scraps of the shelves, and no one in sight. I am no business major but any idiot could see why they flopped.

 

[2EZ]

Target tried to get into Canada a few years ago. But they did it half assed. The shelves were always barren, the staff was too light, and they just did not commit. It backfired. Shopping at target was like shopping in a store from an episode of the walking dead. A few scraps of the shelves, and no one in sight. I am no business major but any idiot could see why they flopped.

 

[TUFNewb]

How hard is it to pay people a decent living wage and not replace them with robots?

Turns out it's pretty hard.

 

[FrankieNYC]

Can I make $1.50 and still get the $3 deal?

And let's be real. The UFC's roster has vastly increased over the years so there's more fighters making a real living fighting then ever. That's the bonus of running as many shows as the UFC does.

Plus fighters are guaranteed 3 fights per 12 months

so a newly signed fighter that goes 1 & 1 will make $55k plus injury insurance & don't have to sell tix
At 1 & 1 that means he will still be a pre-prelim guy most likely
That is not bad for an entry level pre-pre fighter
If they do good, they move up.
An indy fighter like @AJ Garcia will tell you that is pretty good

Where I think UFC truly needs to do more is with the next tiers of fighters.
The guys with names that fill up the cards that helps get the big TV money

The superstars make millions
The new fighters get more than they would elsewhere while they try to prove they belong
the middling fighters are completely under-valued sadly & that is the bulk of the roster

 

[frye666]

Plus fighters are guaranteed 3 fights per 12 months

No fucking way 600 guys are getting 3 fights a year.

 

[FrankieNYC]

Plus fighters are guaranteed 3 fights per 12 months

No fucking way 600 guys are getting 3 fights a year.

They don't have to fight 3x
If they fight 2 they get paid show ($12k) for the third
Unless of course they turn the fight(s) down, that is on them

As fighters go up in pay the 3 fight guarantee might change to 2 for higher paid fighters

But UFC has to offer x- fights per contract at agree contractual pay every 12 months

 

[frye666]

Plus fighters are guaranteed 3 fights per 12 months

No fucking way 600 guys are getting 3 fights a year.

And even if this was true, are the bottom 20 guys getting 10k a fight to show for each of their 3 fights a year?

 

[surrealworlds]

Target tried to get into Canada a few years ago. But they did it half assed. The shelves were always barren, the staff was too light, and they just did not commit. It backfired. Shopping at target was like shopping in a store from an episode of the walking dead. A few scraps of the shelves, and no one in sight. I am no business major but any idiot could see why they flopped.

This has to be the most irrelevant post ive seen in a thread in recent memory.

 

[NILLI]

The base pay would never work in a model where the employee is really working maybe two weeks in a year.

Otherwise they are just training and how would you keep tabs on that. What about injuries if a fighter is out year or two? You really think no name fighters should get a base pay the second they sign?

You can keep your day job and fight and if you get to high of a level then quit your day job. But if you suck then UFC is really doing you a favor by not giving handouts and you have to keep your day job.

 

[FrankieNYC]

And even if this was true, are the bottom 20 guys getting 20k a fight to show for each of their 3 fights a year?

There is no "even if this is true"
It's true.
I explained how off your initial post was regarding info.
You seem to miss a lot of known info regarding fighters.

Now your bottom 20 making $20k x3 comment made no sense
With approx 600 fighters (you think only 300) why would the bottom 20 make more money that I explained a new fighter signed would?

 

[Rondas Pillow]

The fighters have to unionize to make it happen. Funny that fighters are afraid to fight for a fair piece of the pie. Look at the split in all the major sports and it is laughable what fighters get. The UFC isn’t going to just decide to be generous one day.

 

[Rondas Pillow]

The base pay would never work in a model where the employee is really working maybe two weeks in a year.

Otherwise they are just training and how would you keep tabs on that. What about injuries if a fighter is out year or two? You really think no name fighters should get a base pay the second they sign?

You can keep your day job and fight and if you get to high of a level then quit your day job. But if you suck then UFC is really doing you a favor by not giving handouts and you have to keep your day job.

Hi Dana