The UFC doesn't provide fair competition

[Sweater of AV]

If you want to know why it’s like this, look no farther than this forum. There is a substantial portion of the MMA fan base that seems to regard popularity as merit.

That's because the UFC explicitly uses popularity as merit. If they had actually been consistent then no one would seriously make some of the suggestions you often see.

 

[Lawrence]

The UFC module doesn't provide fair competition or equivalent opportunities for its roster

moving up in the rankings or getting closer to the top of the division is just random and based on how much Dana likes you

this's not a competition on an even playground, every fighter gets a different path that mostly has nothing to do with his record, for example; McGregor gets an opportunity to win the belt of beating Eddie Alvarez with zero wins at lw and gets elevated 70 times more than any other lw who already beat Eddie with way more wins in the division, in the eyes of fans and media at least, just because he gets to wear a trophy belt afterwards

there's no system for this it's just random, random title shots, random #1 contenders (Masvidal vs Usman 2)

I wish the UFC was something like the PFL where all the good fighters are forced to compete against each other regularly without any drama or randomness

that's the only way belts could mean anything

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[Slatersan]

Every promotion save for PFL uses the same business model. It's not unique to the UFC. They are in the business of making money through selling fights. This means elevating fighters with more hype and potential than others. This means making the fights people want to see.

So? That doesnt change what i said. There was an actual point Dana and Vince were talking. Maybe around when Brock came on. After that the ufc started focusing on personalities and being entertaining.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Meh, true to some extent but for the most part I think people get found out quickly in MMA if they arent the real deal. And we are seeing what we perceive to be the best vs the best facing each other pretty regularly.

 

[CieloLuce]

The UFC in general is not in the business to be a sport, it is here to entertain that's all.

 

[DaRivv20]

wow brown belt

I think he’s calling you gay

 

[Guffman]

MMA's roots are in pro wrestling. You can figure the rest out.

 

[lakersfan45]

That’s true. Reminds me of Iaquints fighting for a belt ranked #11

This is a horrible example lmao

 

[Pious Augustus]

I think he’s calling you gay

I didn't choose this beautiful sparking animated belt

pepole who are obsessed over some gif on karate fourms are more likely to be gay

 

[WHITE ANDERSON]

you're wrong

you're because you don't understand the nature of MMA and think it's similar to legitimate combat sports.

in boxing, the promoter is separate from the sanctioning body. the sanctioning body controls the belts and the rankings, while the promoter puts on the fights. this is meant to create fair competition and avoid arbitrary title shots against undeserving opponents, but it's obviously not a perfect system. (mandatory challengers get skipped all of the time, but at least they have to get paid or the champion has to pay a penalty or they have to vacate the belt. an example of this is when mike tyson ducked lennox lewis in the early 90s).

in MMA, the promotion is the sanctioning body. that means the UFC/bellator/PFL, whatever owns the belts just like WWE owns their belts. to think that the UFC has to be "fair" like other sports is a mistake. it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what the UFC is.

 

[Sure Dawg]

That’s true. Reminds me of Iaquints fighting for a belt ranked #11

and conor fighting for a belt at all

 

[kflo]

you're wrong

you're because you don't understand the nature of MMA and think it's similar to legitimate combat sports.

in boxing, the promoter is separate from the sanctioning body. the sanctioning body controls the belts and the rankings, while the promoter puts on the fights. this is meant to create fair competition and avoid arbitrary title shots against undeserving opponents, but it's obviously not a perfect system. (mandatory challengers get skipped all of the time, but at least they have to get paid or the champion has to pay a penalty or they have to vacate the belt. an example of this is when mike tyson ducked lennox lewis in the early 90s).

in MMA, the promotion is the sanctioning body. that means the UFC/bellator/PFL, whatever owns the belts just like WWE owns their belts. to think that the UFC has to be "fair" like other sports is a mistake. it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what the UFC is.

Boxing tends to have more ridiculous title shots than the ufc though…….

 

[blaseblah]

So? That doesnt change what i said. There was an actual point Dana and Vince were talking. Maybe around when Brock came on. After that the ufc started focusing on personalities and being entertaining.

No. If anything they've toned it down over time. Early UFC was more inspired by pro wrestling but that predates whatever conversation you're talking about.

 

[Prologue]

Just get rid of the ranking system then.

 

[kflo]

Imagine if other sports like nfl and hockey can just pick and choose who they want fighting for the cup..

That's why I'll probably never see it becoming more legitimate in my country and being legally allowed to bet on it in stores because the credibility of title shots just have never really been there, so many fighters get opportunities for no good reason at all, while the ones that deserve it like Leon Edward's gotta sit on ice for awhile. Then you have Colby getting a title shot for beating Woodley? And Masvidal for sitting on his ass ? Cmon now.

Other sports have seasons and schedules. The champion starts the next year 0-0 like everyone else. Boxing and mma work the way they do because that’s the only real model that works. They don’t have seasons. They don’t play 16 or 82 or 162 games a year. They can’t do weekly or multi week tournaments like golf or tennis.

 

[burningspear]

Sport 2nd Entertainment 1st

 

[Slatersan]

No. If anything they've toned it down over time. Early UFC was more inspired by pro wrestling but that predates whatever conversation you're talking about.

Lol wtf? Get out of here dude. Why are you randomly arguing when it’s clearly your opinion on the matter?

 

[TGArthur]

That became apparent beginning in the Chael era where being a heel and having an entertainment value is more important that skillset.

 

[kflo]

That became apparent beginning in the Chael era where being a heel and having an entertainment value is more important that skillset.

But chael at least earned his fights with silva……

 

[TGArthur]

But chael at least earned his fights with silva……

And Jon Jones?